OMG i just saw the mate LOL Qg7#
ah well it was a blitz game..
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Yeah, Qg7 would have ended it on the spot, but I think White has the superior game even after Qd3. After you put your bishop on d4 and start advancing your a and b pawns, Black will have a very tough game ahead of him.
Dmytro I use this website instead of software and stuff. I don't own anything but a cheap old chess set and I don't want to waste money on Fritz 11... Pirating it off the internet might be a possibility, but why go through that trouble when I can just ask it here? Your post is not helping me at all.
If you feel the way you do just make a new topic and start complaining there but do not spam here. And why MUST I see that I'm ahead when I'm just a beginning player.. I never studied anything really.
It is not a stupid question. Perhaps he is unsure of how powerful the enemy rook has the potential to be. Perhaps he doesn't find the pawns as powerful with the presence of the queens. You don't have to be so rude. I don't own any chess programs. Do you want to fight me now?
Everyone dumping their game in this forum and askin for help is stupid now? Lol why does chess.com have a forum? I find your posts as useless as they are retarded.
It is for me. I don't feel like hastling with free software that might or might not work. Personal advice of anyone but you has more value then a few numbers to me.
If you want to play silentfilmstar use a PM instead of posting here.
Anyways I haven't had a clear answer yet. I don't see that 2 passed pawns are the factor for white that makes this such a clear win.
I gave you a pretty clear answer, I thought.
Decoy, don't pay attention when people post hurtful comments on here. Just because they see and understand something you don't doesn't mean anything. They want to steal a chess program and get mad because you aren't a thief too! So whatever makes them happy. Chess programs aren't much help anyway in helping you understand true principles, they are hard calculating machines. I don't care if they are better than me - I can't understand their thought processes, so to me they are useless in teaching me.
Decoy, look at it this way. The pawns are passed - no pawns are in the way. They both have potential to become queens. And even better -they are connected, so they can strengthen each other with their moves. If you can keep your king safe, you can begin to advance these pawns together, and support them with the queen and bishop. He will constantly have to babysit these pawns, and eventually will have to sacrifice one of his pieces to prevent you queening, if not both.
Study some games that have passed pawns, or connected passed pawns, and see how the GM uses the pawns to win. You can even sacrifice material when your pawns are that far ahead, because you instantly gain it back.
Take the position for yourself, or with a friend. If by yourself, play both sides, and look for the best moves. As White, you want to keep your king safe and prevent any and all 3-move draws. You have good winning chances. Play through it a few times and get the hang of pushing those pawns. You will begin to get a feel for it.
Dmytro wrote:
So study and don't put so stupid questions! And if you want to play strong you should realize that you should pay some money, to put some effort and spent some time.
About chess software. In Ukraine and other former USSR republics the level of media piracy is very high so my Fritz11 is free fo me.
I have said that white is beter because of passed pawns. 2 passed pawns.
There are no stupid questions - just stupid people. I think you belong in that group...
lol
Chess was once, and for many still is, seen as a form of art. I resent the fact that people such as Dmytro view chess as merely a vehicle for business. Anyone can practice to get better, or get a book out of a library if one is near you. Look through the internet, too; Wikipedia has great info for beginners on many topics, including endgame theory.
Ignore the rude guy. And software pirates suck. If you DID want to run a program, check out Crafty or Rybka. Free, legal, and strong. Winboard for Crafty or Arena for Rybka are nice viewers.
TO your question, black will be hard pressed to salvage a draw. The problems are the two passed white pawns and his exposed king. If white can push those pawns, black will eventually have to lose his rook. In the meantime, white can try for mating attacks. The black rook will likely fall to the white Q if it leaves the protection of that pawn.
That being said, white has a problem if the black Q can penetrate though it looks too slow. The black pawn supporting the R is very vulnerable. If it falls the rook probably does too.
White must advance those pawns and keep the black Q from penetrating. Black wil be trying to gobble those pawns or get behind white's pawns with the Q for a perpetual check.
Those 2 passed pawns re not that strong yet, they are only on the 3rd and fourth rank i think black can win 1.
May 16, 2008
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Getting back to the game, folks! I think if white trades queens white would still win this game due to not just passed pawns, but more pawns than the black rook can handle. Dmytro, what you should consider during the course of a chess game is the quality of your pieces not necessarily the value. A rook is valued higher than a bishop, but in your game the bishop seems to have more control and power than the rook. Mainly because the rook doesn't have too many squares to move to. I think white should win this game.
There is one problem with your analysis Dmytro - it is obviously a computer analysis, but it will not help him understand the principles behind the passed pawns. It is so easy for you, because you can afford a trainer, but he doesn't have one. It would be much more courteous if you want to make a comment, to make one that is constructive. People come to chess.com not to be made feel like fools. Please consider that.
Decoy, did you get a chance to work with your game?
Yeah I played with it a little and I'm pleased with the tips given here. Btw I can afford a trainer, but I could never find the time to actually train due to my studies combined with the sports I practice AND work. That's why I posted in the first place lol.
Decoy, I know a man on this site I would seriously recommend...his name is Gavrikov. I have started a thread to try to get him more classes on chess.com. It takes one hour or so...or you can do classes via email also. Plus, you can ask him questions, and unlike a book, get a great answer. How about being able to take a class on passed pawns with a world-class GM? And here's the thing...sometimes when you take a class, the info starts to set in - a year later, you understand it SO much better than you did when you first saw it. You will even see some initial results, I guarantee. These classes PAY OFF in the long run. I have a much better understanding of exchange sacrifices than I used to - they throw your opponent off guard if he is not watching. I played a successful exchange sacrifice with 1. f4 earlier that helped me to keep the initiative, and that was even after a faulty rook move. I realized I moved the wrong rook (supporting a passed pawn of all things!) and so I went back, and then moved the right rook (3 moves instead of one), but I still kept playing for a stronger position, and he resigned - couldn't take the pressure.
So, it is definetely worth your while. Watch the material, and then later on you will remember things here and there - go back and look at it again, and you will understand it better, and your games will improve. Tell Viktor Gavrikov I sent you - Doug Pinson. Hope to see you win more games soon!
BirdBrain
Dmytro wrote
About this position. For example, this line:
LOL, Dmytro, if your free Fritz give you this variation, u payed it to much! 
1. Qd4 with a threat of mate at g7 is out of question, I suppose? 
2. f5? White open his position on a kingside and alowed threats against his king. Principles, my dear compatriot (Croats come in what-is-now-Croatia from what-is-now-Ukraina in 7th century... 
), principles: If u have two strong, conected free pawns - then they need to go ahead!
And then, after three weak moves of white, black lose time to 4... h6? (This pawn will come under attack!) He could play 4... Re7 and 5... Rf7 (the principe: rook need to be at open lines!) and white is in a real troble...
12. Kg3 - why? King is positioned good enough at h3. King need to be protected, not to rush into a centre to be attacked again! Your FF-11 (Free Fritz 11) is some kind of masohist.
OK, to be serious. all your variation is so senseless that I supose it is some kind of joke.
Just a question, i was playing white in a blitz (too bad i can't get a PGN file from there..)
But who's ahead here?:
I went off to win this match with white, I feel that is quite an accomplishment in this position since I felt I was behind.