Why is this move brilliant? (O-O)

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cactusimplacable

Played it before but I can't see why is this move so brilliant, I just wanted to castle.

cactusimplacable
improperpro escribió:

Using engine, try to understand what happens after black queen captures the horse on g5

Oh I see, castling allows me to do e4 without the Queen taking g2 threating the tower, so I can take the bishop on next move, thanks!

phuclam9300
I think the chess is broken🤣🤣🤣
massimocucca

when a move is good but loses material in the short term chess.com review will often say it's brilliant. i didn't analyze your move but i guess it's good (at least because after Qxg5 you have d4) and in the very short term you are losing a knight. That's roughly what it takes to make a "brilliant move" in chess.com

cactusimplacable
massimocucca escribió:

when a move is good but loses material in the short term chess.com review will often say it's brilliant. i didn't analyze your move but i guess it's good (at least because after Qxg5 you have d4) and in the very short term you are losing a knight. That's roughly what it takes to make a "brilliant move" in chess.com

So it identifies it as a sacrifice hard to see to a human being or somehing like that?

Zoogdar

That's interesting

DiscipleOfKeres

I am not sure if it is brilliant, but the pawn structure that arises after 1...Qxg5 2. d4 Qg4 (Qg3 dxc5) 3. dxc5 (Bxh6 Qxd1) is interesting. White gets a space advantage and the bishop pair, while black potentially gets a semi-open file.

magipi
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

The brilliancy of chess.com is broken....it gives brilliance on anything that loses material but u get it back within a short period of time and often win a pawn....those should be great moves and not brilliance

You say that it's broken, but it is not broken, it is just literally how the programmer of the script defined "brilliant". It is a sacrifice that is not bad, and that's it, period. It does not matter if it is best. It does not matter if it makes any sense.

massimocucca
magipi wrote:
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

The brilliancy of chess.com is broken....it gives brilliance on anything that loses material but u get it back within a short period of time and often win a pawn....those should be great moves and not brilliance

You say that it's broken, but it is not broken, it is just literally how the programmer of the script defined "brilliant". It is a sacrifice that is not bad, and that's it, period. It does not matter if it is best. It does not matter if it makes any sense.

Nevertheless, chess.com assigns significantly more brillancies than any professional annotator that would analize the same games.

massimocucca
cactusimplacable wrote:
massimocucca escribió:

when a move is good but loses material in the short term chess.com review will often say it's brilliant. i didn't analyze your move but i guess it's good (at least because after Qxg5 you have d4) and in the very short term you are losing a knight. That's roughly what it takes to make a "brilliant move" in chess.com

So it identifies it as a sacrifice hard to see to a human being or somehing like that?

Yeah, more or less. Also it looks like that move gives you a very active position. If Qxg5 and d4, u open your dark square bishop and you un-pin your f pawn which now can be used to take space in the center and open the f file for your rook while your light square bishop would be an absolute beast for the rest of the game.

Of course black is not forced to take your knight but if he doesn't i think Qh5 is very strong, increasing the pressure on f7 and also x-raying h7. I'm very high so i might have written pure nonsense.

magipi
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
I don't think it should be given brilliant..... brilliancy is not something so cheap unless u are trying to make ur Audience feel good about themselves.....it should be something extra ordinary that is certainly not possible for us to even think about

I personally agree with you, but chess.com certainly doesn't.

magipi
DarkCellen wrote:
magipi wrote:
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
I don't think it should be given brilliant..... brilliancy is not something so cheap unless u are trying to make ur Audience feel good about themselves.....it should be something extra ordinary that is certainly not possible for us to even think about

I personally agree with you, but chess.com certainly doesn't.

Actually it is brilliant in my opinion. It's brilliant compared for someone with 700 rating. It might not sound brilliant for someone who is like 2000 though because similar moves like these are normal moves for 2000.

Actually, if you look at the opening post, the move was not brilliant at all. He simply blundered the knight. It is just pure luck that the knight can be won back next move.

"I can't see why is this move so brilliant, I just wanted to castle."

Jazzone8910

Very useful

Advanced_player1

After Qxg5 you regain the piece after d4, so it is a valid sac.

massimocucca
DarkCellen wrote:

it is still brilliant compared to a 700 rated person if played correctly

which is a way to say "not brilliant at all"

Han32K

@cactusimplacable The Reason u got a Brilliant Castle Is Because Your g5 knight is hanging after you castle, and after Qxg5 or queen takes g5 knight pawn d4 attacks the bishop and the queen at the same time! grin

MrCharlyy

Thanks nice workthumbup!!!