Why there is draw?

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idolezal

Hallo, I am completly new to chess, playing 3rd day. Can I ask, I have the whits below. I am sure I can beat the black, but the program said it is draw (remis) and I cannot do anything with it. Any idea why?

 

 

illuminati7777

It's stalemate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoGVxiU2VFI

The black King isn't in check at the moment, but they can't move their pawns, and they can't move their King to a safe square.

They can't move up because the rook is covering the #7 rank.

They can't move left or right because the pawn on G5 is covering both of those squares.

They can't take the pawn on G5 because the pawns on F4 and H4 are covering that square

idolezal

Hi illuminati7777, 

thank you for your reply.

But why it is draw? As you said, black cannot move to save place, so I won. How can this be a draw? To clarify, by draw I understand that no one won.

And when this is a draw, how can than someone ever win?

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The answer is in the word itself: checkmate. Checkmate. This means that to deliver checkmate, the king needs to be in check. In the above stalemate, the king is not in check. Stalemate being a draw is an old and disputed thing, but it's part of the rules, so we all gotta deal with it. If you don't know what a check is, it's when a piece or pawn is directly attacking the king. 

I took your game position and made a small tweak so that the Queen is on g8 instead of b1.

The key difference is that in this new position, the queen is directly attacking the king via Qg8-g6. If you look closely, you can see the king can't move anywhere. This is checkmate.

Later on, you'll need to identify stalemate ahead of time and avoid it, but knowing what it is is more than good enough to play against people at your current playing strength.

P.S. Good luck with your chess!

Karlabos

It's a stalemate and it's a rule.

Why is it a draw? Well, because it's the rules. Asking why is like asking why does the pawn move two on the first move instead of just one. Because the game is like that, lol.

eric0022
idolezal wrote:

Hi illuminati7777, 

thank you for your reply.

But why it is draw? As you said, black cannot move to save place, so I won. How can this be a draw? To clarify, by draw I understand that no one won.

And when this is a draw, how can than someone ever win?

 

On this site, if the opponent has no legal moves, there are two different scenarios.

 

1. The king is under check at that point of time as well. This is called checkmate, which is counted as a win and is in fact the objective of this game.

 

2. The king is not under check. This is defined to be stalemate, which is awarded as a draw. FIDE has standardised this to be as such, though there was a period of time when a stalemate was considered a win for the stalemating player and a loss for the stalemated player - but that was many decades ago.

 

Generally you would have to be careful on this because stalemates by newer players are generally accidental and newer players do not realise this until the games instantly end with the stalemate pop-up message. In short, you should not just corner the king - you should attack it on the same turn.

ChessSBM

There is no legal move for black, and black isn’t is check. Therefore, this is considered stalemate (draw).