A game won without even one aggressive move played...

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solskytz
 
It seems that when I went ...Nc4, slightly invading his position and attacking the b-pawn, this was the height of aggression as far as this game was concerned. 
 
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DoctorStrange

in my understanding black's play itself was aggressive....:/

solskytz

Well, just occupying better places with my pieces, and not letting him squeeze out from under...

Martin0

I guess white let go of the e-pawn a bit too easily which gave black a good game and then white played a bunch of slow moves like a3 and h3 when he should have developed his queenside pieces. A black knight on c4 is a bit annoying to deal with, but white might be able to take advantage of the fact that after for example 12.Bf4 Nc4 13.Bb3 Nxb2 the knight is pretty much trapped at b2. In the end white probably should have taken control of the c4 square with 16.Bb3 before it was too late.

 

I'm a bit curious if the rook endgame is won for black or not. 34.Rh4 h6 35.Rg4 g5 36.Rg3 is not very clear to me (36...Rd4 37.Rg4 Rd3 38.Rg3 just repeats). I don't think any of the pawn endgames white offers there are won for black.

BronsteinPawn

Great, now everyone that will ever play against the OP will know not to play 3.Nxe5 but to play 3.d4 and stay in mainline theory hoping to get an edge.

Martin0
BronsteinPawn wrote:

Great, now everyone that will ever play against the OP will know not to play 3.Nxe5 but to play 3.d4 and stay in mainline theory hoping to get an edge.

Why? I like white's position after 7.dxe5.

solskytz

<BronsteinPawn> This would tend to mean that EVERYBODY would read my posts (I'm honored and flattered!!) and that my knowledge would be respected and feared!!!! :-)

Not to mention - that everybody would be ready for me playing system A - and totally surprised when I opt for systems B, C or X...

 

Then - see what Martin0 writes :-) people will always play 3. Nxe5 against me - which is a perfectly good move, regardless of black's answer. 

 

<Martino> - your longer comment merits a more detailed study and response. I'll try to get to it later tonight :-)

solskytz

Martin0 - 

 

1) I was ready also for moves other than castling at that point, when white tries to guard his pawn... :-)

 

2) After 12. Bf4 I wouldn't play ...Nc4. I would play ...Ng6, or ...f6, or ...Bd6.

 

3) One thing to know, is that the time control was 40 moves in 90 minutes + 30 seconds per move, and that by move thirty, my opponent had a minute left, while I still had 57... :-)

So I could torture him endlessly in the rook (or in the pawn) endgame (for example, in the variation you cite, by playing ...Rd6 and ...h5 at some point, and then going back ...Rd4 and winning the b-pawn). He would always have to find what I actually wanted to do with my maneouvres, and try to find an answer - without having sufficient time to do so. 

This is precisely what happened in our game, and why he got so low on time. There were many "mysterious moves" I played (all of my rook-toggling between e8 and d8, for instance...), and short of time (he had 7 minutes left at move 20) he couldn't be expected to ALWAYS be able to answer

ARIST0PHANES

And solskytz keeps posting his victories...

solskytz

Other people post my losses, don't worry... :-) https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/i-won-against-solskytz

 

You are invited to beat me and publish that one too - I promise that I won't object. 

solskytz

Wait a minute - you joined the site ten days ago. How do you know that I have a habit of posting my victories? I haven't posted any in these last ten days...

ARIST0PHANES

You are the kind of user who would do it.

BronsteinPawn

The variation is suspicious to say at least.

 
In other words, play real openings plz (jk)
solskytz

The final position in your variation is far from being a tragedy for black. Besides, black could also play 10...f6, in which case the DSB can also go to c5 or b4 - there are really many options. 

Re. "play real openings" - you are actually right about that - but that takes some study... :-) who ever finds the time for that??

solskytz

By the way - would you care to share your resource for learning what "most people play in Centaur chess"?

I'm sure that this could be helpful to some readers of our forums (including yours truly).

BronsteinPawn

ICCF's 2014 Archive

BronsteinPawn

Wouldnt 10...f6 be met by Nb5? Or perhaps even Bxe5 which probably shouldnt be so bad for Black as he has the bishop pair but gives White something to try and bite off

10...Bd6 seems to be best, if Nb5 then Nf3+ seems to solve Black's problems. Black develops with kind of tempo (Nf3+ does not win a piece but it changes the position to something Black would preffer)

 

BronsteinPawn

I just got my hands on the ICCF's 2015 archives and moves have changed a little bit.

White has now tried some other moves instead of 8.Nc3, mainly 8.Bb5 which is common in OTB play 8.Bf4 and also 8.Nc3, however there is only one game per each variation, and in the game with Bb5 Black played the line with 10...Qb4 instead of 0-0-0 which is also an option.

BronsteinPawn

And for anyone thinking the blunt affected my brain, here is the page from where I get the ICCF archives, the ICCF official page.php2i7CPN.png

solskytz

<Bronstein pawn> in the first case you suggest, 10. Nb5 can be answered by ...Bb4+ and ...Ba5, covering c7. In the second case - yes, black can take - but the resulting e-pawn won't be overly weak. 

Overall - it's nice to see you do your homework in this variation - and if this post served to broaden the intellectual horizons of the chess.com crowd, I'm already a winner :-)