centre game savegry

hi there on tuesday i played this game as part of a summer tournement he played a few moves i am not familer with i hope you can respond generously for i will help me in the future thank you her is the game

Um, if u want i can help u comment

2. d4?!

GM Adams and Morozevich have experimented with 2. ... exd4 3. Qxd4, the outcome is that this is not completely unplayable, but moving the Queen twice in the opening does give black an advantage.

8. f3?!

Understandably you wanted to prevent ...Ng4 but after ...Ng4 then Qg3 and black has to retreat the knight. Better was 8.f4!? controlling the centre and preparing fora flank attack whereas 8. f3?! also blocks f3, a useful square for the knight. Also, after 9. Be2, the bishop is somewhat blocked.

9. Be2?!

9. Bd3 might have been better

14. Nh3!?

Interesting move, maybe you were trying to exploit the f-file?

21.g6?

You closed the g-file. 21. gxf6! was better, opening lines when you can use the g-file to attack with queen and rook.

Admittedly, nice game although if black had defended properly after 21.g6?, he might have at least held the game for another 20 moves or even manage to draw.

i love the paulsen attack. easy development.

Jack rudd has more balls than me for shure

be2 really stange the better defensive players are confy with it so r u learning

I enjoy playing centre game a lot.  It was my first opening.  Very nice play...the mate was simple and pleasing.  

THANK YOU I THINK I HAD LOTS OF OPTIONS THROUGHOUT

Thanks for the forum topic bigmac 30, a superb finish and worthy of the showcase. Your attack in some ways reminded me of the yugoslav against the sicilian f3, g4, h4 etc. Many centre game players would play Qg3 instead of f3 but who's to say your move is any the worse, perhaps some opponents may risk d5 against f3 seeking to equalise. Blacks lack of a plan eg a6, h6, f6, Qc8, Qd8 meant he was going nowhere but maybe he had a plan and yours was just better.

Great posts re the Morozevich & Rudd games. & sorry Amnesiac for some repetition.  

Thank You

John Boy

Just wanted to be clear here that the Center Game is entirely sound and playable, and top-level masters have been turning to it for hundreds of years. So I'd dispense with the ?! mark.

For my part, I have a healthy respect for what this opening can accomplish in the hands of a strong, attacking player. For several years I've actually chosen to adopt the Peterson Variation (1 e4 e5 2 d4 Nf6) in order to sidestep it. The nice part about this is that, especially in blitz, it stops the Center Game player in his tracks. Takes a bit of practice, but it's worth it.

 yes it is simalar to grand prix and kerres and yogslav attacks most attacks are related some how intersting in a shevengain game i tryed the h7 nh7 and got spanked bigstyle i also tryed the same in a kia with same results so prehapes that defence is debious don't know if experts can explainit thugh

Well, in my opinion, I love it when my opponent plays the Queen out (geddit?) because I am good at chasing the Queen around, sometimes taking it eventually, and other times developing greatly and controlling the center firmly.

For you people who still insist on playing 2.d4?!, if Black takes the pawn, I recommend Nc3 or something good, but not taking with Queen. If you stll insist on capturing with the Queen, well...... good luck.

Well played! What a game, not just centre game savagery but pawn game savagery...if that makes sense...too.

The opening is good for begginers it helps you get all the peices out, also 4 nights and kings kambit do the same thing nf3 is usally played an hoo but b6 is a forcved loss

Qd4, unless you're already an expert (which I hope you are), isn't really very satisfactory. Because I can beat high-rating people OTB and online when they use the Center Counter. So my advice is, master, really master the Center-Counter until you are ready to try it out.

You're quite right that 1.e4 e5 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bb4? is inferior; the appropriate response is 3...exd4. This leads, as you say, more or less back into the Center Game after 4 Qxd4, but into the Kupreichik Variation which scores well for black--out of 702 games in my database, 266 white wins, 148 draws, and 289 black wins. Black's smooth development has given white a lot of tactical problems to consider, though white (as yet) has no serioius weaknesses for black to immediately exploit.

Centre Game tournament! http://www.chess.com/tournament/centre-game

I also want to say...as a beginner, I won more games with Centre Game than with the frustrating Ruy Lopez.  Centre Game's objectives look pretty clear to the beginner mind.

We're getting pretty far afield here, Amnesiac, but to me it seems like 8...Nxe4 is markedly inferior to 8...Rxe4. For example:

I WATCHED IT LIVE EPIC SURE U BLUNDERED IT AWAY PREHAPES IF HE USED SOME OF THAT 33 MINS HE HAD LEFT HE MIGHT HAVE SEEN IT EPIC THOUGH