Given the rating and time stamps, it looks like cheating to me.
Chess.com probably wont ban you for just that game, but if I were your opponent I'd think you're cheating too.
First win against 1900 in blitz (unrated). Accused of cheating in the chat :(
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Nov 5, 2022
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#23
B1ZMARK wrote:
psychohist wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
21. Nb6+ is a red flag. Most people would have simply taken the rook on h8. I assume this was a blitz game, due to #3.
I could see a 1000 wanting to do both rook forks. Black's play does not look like a 1900 to me, though.
If it was a longer game, like 10min, I would probably be more understanding. But I find it strange that a 1000 can spot a move like that in blitz.
Isn't it interesting how spending 7 seconds on every move has the magic effect of finding the best move 
Nov 5, 2022
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#24
Oh ok, so the game isn't perfect... I guess maybe not cheating? I guess?
But yeah, I wouldn't be happy with a very low rated opponent taking a long time on easy moves...
Nov 5, 2022
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#25
pfren wrote:
Black played like a monkey in this game- one bad move after the other.
He plays bullet almost exclusively hgere, and after 9000+ "games" his brains are naturally fried.
It's pretty normal to play like garbage in unrated games though... people play unrated because they know they don't deserve the rating, or they're drunk, etc.
Nov 5, 2022
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#26
llama36 wrote:
pfren wrote:
Black played like a monkey in this game- one bad move after the other.
He plays bullet almost exclusively hgere, and after 9000+ "games" his brains are naturally fried.
It's pretty normal to play like garbage in unrated games though... people play unrated because they know they don't deserve the rating, or they're drunk, etc.
or, like hustling in billiards, they are luring in their prey.
I wonder why people cheat and then post the game.
We see your dirty hinderhole its between your shoulders.
Nov 5, 2022
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#28
I can't blame him to be honest. This was a pretty suspicious game, and if I was black I would have my suspicions as well. But I don't think you were cheating, and just got lucky.
Nov 5, 2022
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#29
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
anthony59237 wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials
I actually don't have an OTB rating due to migration
Also, 2200+ ratings are not inflated and are actually harder to reach on lichess
Nov 5, 2022
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#30
ajayjha25 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
anthony59237 wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials
I actually don't have an OTB rating due to migration
Also, 2200+ ratings are not inflated and are actually harder to reach on lichess
That is an easy claim to make about Lichess with no evidence to back it up. Not only do you start 300 points higher, so it isn't a matter of inflation, there is more cheating on Lichess, so it may be harder to maintain it. However, if you are maintaining it, you are either an unproven master or....
...I have to wonder how many unproven masters there are in the world. It is possible, especially in poorer countries, where there simply aren't good structures of clubs and ratings, or where people don't have time and money to prove it OTB, since they are stuck in survival mode.
Nov 5, 2022
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#31
USCF tournaments take time and money, making them impractical for me atm
Nov 5, 2022
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#32
ajayjha25 wrote:
USCF tournaments take time and money, making them impractical for me atm
I have the same issue. I have a family to support and young kids. I am also an older fellow with no established rating, so I would likely be submarined continually by kids who are far underrated. I have heard stories where there is no interest in adult prodigies.
Nov 5, 2022
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#33
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
anthony59237 wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials
I actually don't have an OTB rating due to migration
Also, 2200+ ratings are not inflated and are actually harder to reach on lichess
That is an easy claim to make about Lichess with no evidence to back it up. Not only do you start 300 points higher, so it isn't a matter of inflation, there is more cheating on Lichess, so it may be harder to maintain it. However, if you are maintaining it, you are either an unproven master or....
...I have to wonder how many unproven masters there are in the world. It is possible, especially in poorer countries, where there simply aren't good structures of clubs and ratings, or where people don't have time and money to prove it OTB, since they are stuck in survival mode.
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense. And being a 2200+ player on lichess myself I can agree to the fact that there is less inflation at that point. I have heard many people say the same thing and some point I did even a see a graph of it.
Nov 5, 2022
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#34
Batman2508 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
anthony59237 wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials
I actually don't have an OTB rating due to migration
Also, 2200+ ratings are not inflated and are actually harder to reach on lichess
That is an easy claim to make about Lichess with no evidence to back it up. Not only do you start 300 points higher, so it isn't a matter of inflation, there is more cheating on Lichess, so it may be harder to maintain it. However, if you are maintaining it, you are either an unproven master or....
...I have to wonder how many unproven masters there are in the world. It is possible, especially in poorer countries, where there simply aren't good structures of clubs and ratings, or where people don't have time and money to prove it OTB, since they are stuck in survival mode.
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense. And being a 2200+ player on lichess myself I can agree to the fact that there is less inflation at that point. I have heard many people say the same thing and some point I did even a see a graph of it.
Why doesn't it make sense? Please explain.
Nov 5, 2022
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#35
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
anthony59237 wrote:
ajayjha25 wrote:
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials
I actually don't have an OTB rating due to migration
Also, 2200+ ratings are not inflated and are actually harder to reach on lichess
That is an easy claim to make about Lichess with no evidence to back it up. Not only do you start 300 points higher, so it isn't a matter of inflation, there is more cheating on Lichess, so it may be harder to maintain it. However, if you are maintaining it, you are either an unproven master or....
...I have to wonder how many unproven masters there are in the world. It is possible, especially in poorer countries, where there simply aren't good structures of clubs and ratings, or where people don't have time and money to prove it OTB, since they are stuck in survival mode.
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense. And being a 2200+ player on lichess myself I can agree to the fact that there is less inflation at that point. I have heard many people say the same thing and some point I did even a see a graph of it.
Why doesn't it make sense? Please explain.
i mean there is proof that the rating more or less equalizes as you go up https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/
however to make a bold claim about lichess having more uncaught cheaters is not something you should say unless you can back it up with proof.
Nov 5, 2022
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#36
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense.
Why doesn't it make sense? Please explain.
Lichess aggressively bans people on their site, compared to cc who only bans cheaters if they are almost statistically certain. So it would make sense that there are less cheaters on Lichess.
Nov 5, 2022
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#37
Would the testimony of a Cheating Forum admin/ site moderator from Chess.com telling you that Chess.com has ran their own cheat detection system on Lichess games for comparison, to see if Lichess is doing a better job, make any difference to you, or would you say it's him defending Chess.com?
Where do you think I got the idea?
Nov 5, 2022
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#38
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
Would the testimony of a Cheating Forum admin/ site moderator from Chess.com telling you that Chess.com has ran their own cheat detection system on Lichess games for comparison, to see if Lichess is doing a better job, make any difference to you, or would you say it's him defending Chess.com?
Where do you think I got the idea?
Well yeah its a chess.com mod so they're always doing to support chess.com
Nov 5, 2022
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#39
B1ZMARK wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense.
Why doesn't it make sense? Please explain.
Lichess aggressively bans people on their site, compared to cc who only bans cheaters if they are almost statistically certain. So it would make sense that there are less cheaters on Lichess.
Honestly a few of my friends have gotten banned here and promised me they didn't cheat, and made new accounts and got closed over and over again so I don't feel to good about chesss.com cheat detection
Nov 5, 2022
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#40
Batman2508 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
More cheaters on lichess? That makes absolutely no sense.
Why doesn't it make sense? Please explain.
Lichess aggressively bans people on their site, compared to cc who only bans cheaters if they are almost statistically certain. So it would make sense that there are less cheaters on Lichess.
Honestly a few of my friends have gotten banned here and promised me they didn't cheat, and made new accounts and got closed over and over again so I don't feel to good about chesss.com cheat detection
Some people think they can pick moves from a list that are outside of the top 3 engine choices, use a bot that they are told is uncatchable, or cheat in some games and not others, or a move here or move there, but they know nothing of forensic statistics. Every attempt to hide the evidence leaves a new fingerprint. If your friends didn't cheat, they wouldn't have gotten banned. It is as simple as that. I have met some cheaters who seemed nice and used an engine on me. It happens to the best of us.
I beat an fm rated 2700 on lichess.
am I cheeting?
Does FM stand for fraud master?
@ajayjha25, that is really 2400, since they start 300 points higher than Chess.com and I would be curious to see the PGN and know your OTB credentials