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ozzie_c_cobblepot

I thought that c3 was one of the book moves there... one can find a book move "not to one's taste" but it would be wrong to imply that it is a bad move.

Kupov3
Hammerschlag wrote:

Why 4) c3 ?

Was this game a Theme game where your opponent has to play that move (Italian Game)? or was it chosen by your opponent? I use to play e4 openings and I have never liked that move.


4 c3 is the mainline.

Elubas
AnthonyCG wrote:

It's a book move. It gets two pawns in the center. Who can resist that?


Yes, but I like to get my two pawn center for free.

Hammerschlag
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

I thought that c3 was one of the book moves there... one can find a book move "not to one's taste" but it would be wrong to imply that it is a bad move.


If I implied that is was a "bad move", I apologize; I just meant that I do not like that choice move...it's just not my choice move in that situation; I like 4) b4 more than c3 (Evan`s Gambit). I have never played the Italian Game myself so I cannot say anything bad about it (I would not know); it's more of a preference for me to not play c3, that's all.

4) c3 is the book move for the Italian Game; that's what I was curious about...if it was chosen ahead of time (theme) or if it was chosen by the opponent.

Hobbes_NLC
Adamperfection wrote:

I prefer flawless loses...


 Well said...

Kernicterus
Hobbes_NLC wrote:
Adamperfection wrote:

I prefer flawless loses...


 Well said...


haha.Sealed

Kernicterus

I'm pretty wary of making equal trades without some purpose...obviously in this case the choice was made by my opponent.  It appears to be agreed by all that he was not gaining any advantage with this trade.

Atos

I would think that Rook and pawn come close to being a fair compensation for two minor pieces in the endgame, when the Rook can find open files and the pawn can advance toward queening. Here the endgame wasn't even near, plus the White traded off his only developed pieces and remained with a huge lag in development.

In some cases, this 'trade' might be justified in middlegame if you are in the position to attack their king (removing the defenders). It should probably be thought about as a sacrifice then.

Hammerschlag

I have seen some very impressive wins by white in the Italian Game, although the stats seem to favor black (at least in this particular line...and nobody said white has to play 9) d5).

Italian Game: Classical Variation, Greco Gambit Moeller-Therkatz Attack (C54)

165 Games in Database (view games)
RESULT:

White wins: 30.91%

Draws: 20.61%

Black wins: 48.48%