🤔🔥What's your biggest chess HOT TAKE🔥🤔

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I think the topic speaks for itself. Just post your biggest chess HOT takes🔥 and watch as your one singular post sparks the biggest controversy you've ever seen(it probably won't but...). Give an explanation to your take(or don't that could also work lol) and just hope you don't wake up to a million hate comments! Reply to a take with a thumbup or thumbdown depending on whether or not you agree with it. I've searched multiple times to find a chess hot take forum and...I genuinely couldn't find a singular one soooooo I decided to make one of my own! Anyway here's my biggest chess hot take:

Chess is a partially luck based game. Just hear me out(Im definitely gonna get called out because of this)😅. For every move you make, it makes an impact on the overall game and the future but we obviously can't predict what you or your opponent will play for say the next 40 moves. So if you really think about it sometimes a piece will just conveniently or inconveniently be there for some crazy checkmate or your absolute demise. You can argue with something like "that's why you plan ahead" but again if you really think about it that's just an educated move and you've got no idea when or how it'll actually end up helping you sometimes. Positions can get weird and even a single pawn you ended up pushing 1 square up like 20 moves ago can make an absolute comeback into the game and do all sorts of things like: promote, just conveniently be there to cut off your opponent's king, being the game winning piece by somehow forcing a checkmate, etc. Chess has emergent outcomes and while you can somewhat control it by preparing yourself you'll never be able to fully predict the outcome. So whether or not you agree with me I think that chess is partially luck-based(ok it's not like I'm saying it's mostly luck or anything it just has a wee bit of luck in it).

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If you're really against this take then prove me wrong!

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I was saying this to lightning the other day. My hot take is there should replace arena titles with African titles. Because there's not many players in Africa and it might help chess grow there

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

I was saying this to lightning the other day. My hot take is there should replace arena titles with African titles. Because there's not many players in Africa and it might help chess grow there

uhhhh...ok?

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well you asked

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CoachingForLess wrote:

the best opening is the polish opening

no...it's the barnes

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I've got two really nasty ones that a lot of people don't seem to like. Here goes nothing...


1. GothamChess is extremely overrated.

All he does is glaze the Caro-Kann Defense to the point where you'd think he's getting paid to do it, make fun of noobs (they pretty much ask for it, but still) instead of trying to help them understand what they're doing wrong, and milk Magnus for all he's worth. And he does it all while screaming loudly at everything, explaining the painfully obvious in an over-the-top manner, and overall being unbelievably obnoxious in general to the point that I'm pretty sure his neighbors must absolutely hate him.

You can't deny that it worked; he's got a cult following like no other. But it doesn't change the fact that his content can be accurately summed up as "chess brainrot."

2. Ding Liren lost the 2024 World Chess Championship on purpose.

I don't understand why this is controversial. Ding was going through horrendous mental health struggles at the time and his performance was suffering as a result, but Gukesh still had a hard time trying to defeat him. It finally ended when Ding made an incredibly dumb mistake in the last game that even someone at my rating would be able to realize is a losing move and not even consider playing. Not to mention Ding had plenty of time left on his clock, so he had more than enough time to realize that the losing move he played was obviously a blunder. Gukesh's poor performances since then have only served to further reinforce my belief that if Ding was mentally well and really trying to win, he would have wiped the floor with him.

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Well I disagree with both so good hot take

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Fr3nchToastCrunch wrote:

I've got two really nasty ones that a lot of people don't seem to like. Here goes nothing...


1. GothamChess is extremely overrated.

All he does is glaze the Caro-Kann Defense to the point where you'd think he's getting paid to do it, make fun of noobs (they pretty much ask for it, but still) instead of trying to help them understand what they're doing wrong, and milk Magnus for all he's worth. And he does it all while screaming loudly at everything, explaining the painfully obvious in an over-the-top manner, and overall being unbelievably obnoxious in general to the point that I'm pretty sure his neighbors must absolutely hate him.

You can't deny that it worked; he's got a cult following like no other. But it doesn't change the fact that his content can be accurately summed up as "chess brainrot."

2. Ding Liren lost the 2024 World Chess Championship on purpose.

I don't understand why this is controversial. Ding was going through horrendous mental health struggles at the time and Gukesh still had a hard time trying to defeat him. It finally ended when Ding made an incredibly dumb mistake in the last game that even someone at my rating would be able to realize is a losing move and not even consider playing. Not to mention Ding had plenty of time left on his clock, so he had more than enough time to realize that the losing move he played was obviously a blunder. Gukesh's oddly poor performances since then have only served to further reinforce my belief that if Ding was mentally well and really trying to win, he would have wiped the floor with him.

1. I can actually relate. I feel like ever since a couple years ago he stopped actually teaching and helping people but rather making videos just for views. 2. You are definitely gonna get a lot of backlash from all the gukesh fans(I'm not a gukesh fans but I'm just saying).

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

Well I disagree with both so good hot take

lol

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Chess title such as gr

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Edit : chess title such as GM should not be a permanent thing and should be temporary one, like if you do not maintain your rating, you could lose it.

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Verwarr wrote:

Edit : chess title such as GM should not be a permanent thing and should be temporary one, like if you do not maintain your rating, you could lose it.

Fair take but i've got to slightly disagree with that one. I think rather than immediately losing the title you would have to regain the rating within a certain amount of time. Tournaments don't happen too frequently and because of that if you happen to be just under the range it will take a while before you are rewarded with the title again. I think the whole 'you can lose it' thing makes sense but only up to a certain limit.

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Chess player is p2w if you want to be able to have a chance to get a GM title because you need to have money to be able to focus all your time to grind/ learning chess to have a slightest change to get the title. Note: If you're prodigy, it's a different story.

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Edit : "chess game" not chess player.

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No ❤️‍🩹

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Verwarr wrote:

Chess player is p2w if you want to be able to have a chance to get a GM title because you need to have money to be able to focus all your time to grind/ learning chess to have a slightest change to get the title. Note: If you're prodigy, it's a different story.

kind of actually agree with that one

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You don't think prodigies spend all their time on chess?

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Chickens should replace horses
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smiley_face10 napisał:

I think the topic speaks for itself. Just post your biggest chess HOT takes🔥 and watch as your one singular post sparks the biggest controversy you've ever seen(it probably won't but...). Give an explanation to your take(or don't that could also work lol) and just hope you don't wake up to a million hate comments! I searched multiple times to find a chess hot take forum and...I genuinely couldn't find a singular one sooooooo I decided to make one of my own! Anyway here's my biggest chess hot take:

Chess is partially a luck based game. Just hear me out(Im definitely gonna get called out because of this)😅. For every move you make, it makes an impact on the overall game and the future. We obviously can't predict what you or your opponent will play for say the next 40 moves. So if you really think about it sometimes a piece will just conveniently or inconveniently be there for some crazy checkmate or your absolute demise. You can argue with something like "that's why you plan ahead" but again if you really think about it that's just an educated move and you've got no idea when or how it'll actually end up helping you sometimes. Positions can get weird and even a single pawn you ended up pushing 1 square up like 20 moves ago can make an absolute comeback into the game and do all sorts of things like: promote, just conveniently be there to cut off your opponent's king, being the game winning piece by somehow forcing a checkmate, etc. Chess has emergent outcomes and while you can somewhat control it by preparing yourself you'll never be able to fully predict the outcome. So whether or not you agree with me I think that chess = partial luck(ok it's not like I'm saying it's mostly luck or anything).

getting to 1000, is just basic logic, but most people are fried by tik tok, thinking that it requires accuall skill