10 Personality Disorders of Chess Players

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85_PorsheTurbo wrote:

The apex are the people who play the French. 

? Those who play French defense have which disorder? Is it possible certain chess opening is related with certain disorder? Just a hypothesis?

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85_PorsheTurbo wrote:

The apex are the people who play the French. 

? Those who play French defense have which disorder? Is it possible certain chess opening is related with certain disorder? Just a hypothesis?

Idk, it was me just spitting my rage on them. In my difficulty constantly reoccuring playing against it, I have been alerted to a pattern - correlating it to certain arrogance of players who are starting the game with 1. e6 - 2.d5. The players I have encountered executting this were somehow always rotten regarding their intention. I am aware it may be just my hallucination taking life directly from my in-game inabillity. (I do not have this impression with the other opening with which I have problems dealing with i.e. open Sicilian, where I lack theory. I see Sicilian players quite differently - although they also usually display certain impudence. It isn´t so morbid to a point like the former.)

The general hypothesis is indeed interesting. It would require deep psychological study though.

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The most intriguing opening is probably the Colle System. What is he doing? Like playing solitaire chess. 

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CelticG wrote:

There are plenty of highly 'creative' types who never suffered from any mental disorders and were just down to earth folks like everyone else. However, many creative people may have been rendered neurotic as a result of outside stresses. Perhaps pertaining to their work, and how it was received. I don't see why chess players should suffer from personality disorders, any more than non chess players. But the archetypal image of being seen to be a chess player might attract people who already suffer from personality disorders. It certainly happens in the world of music and creative writing. The arts seem to attract a lot of nutters, but most of them are untalented dreamers who go around telling everyone how creative they are.>>>

Very often, "nutters", as you call them, are very creative people who are also very insecure. Sometimes, insecure people over-react, in all sorts of ways. Creativity implies a certain fragility, because the creative mind can operate on a sort of hair trigger, responding accurately to stimuli which stolid and less imaginative types with both feet on the ground wouldn't even notice. But sometimes, the responses are inaccurate and at others, people are attacked simply because of their intelligence and/or creativity.

I know these things because, of course, I'm very highly creative and, as has been discussed here and elsewhere, possessed of an extremely high IQ, which would put those of most chess grandmasters to shame. I'm also rather good looking, very emotionally and mentally stable and in my youth, I was very good at table football. Whilst all this is true, there are potential negatives. For instance, my sense of humour may be a bit iffy.

 

 

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85_PorsheTurbo wrote:
bong711 napisał:
85_PorsheTurbo wrote:

The apex are the people who play the French. 

? Those who play French defense have which disorder? Is it possible certain chess opening is related with certain disorder? Just a hypothesis?

Idk, it was me just spitting my rage on them. In my difficulty constantly reoccuring playing against it, I have been alerted to a pattern - correlating it to certain arrogance of players who are starting the game with 1. e6 - 2.d5. The players I have encountered executting this were somehow always rotten regarding their intention. I am aware it may be just my hallucination taking life directly from my in-game inabillity. (I do not have this impression with the other opening with which I have problems dealing with i.e. open Sicilian, where I lack theory. I see Sicilian players quite differently - although they also usually display certain impudence. It isn´t so morbid to a point like the former.)

The general hypothesis is indeed interesting. It would require deep psychological study though.

 Try the Korshnoi gambit:

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I’ve been diagnosed with various disorders over the years including bipolar, catatonia, schizophrenia and high functioning autism/asperges syndrome.  Most mental health issues are caused by early childhood trauma so I’ve been told. 

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I agree with every one of those, I was thinking the exact same thing, nice.

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Why does no-one claim low-functioning autism? I suppose that was a horrible thing to say, though.

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People who have limited abilities to communicate and manage their behaviour are considered to have low functioning autism.

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Also I have a piece of paper from a medical practitioner and the diagnosis is based on his perspective.

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All a diagnosis is is you going to a doctor and telling him what's wrong with you and then he translates it into some kind of Latin or Greek pidgin nonsense.

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I have came across the mysterious statement, that autistic people think exclusively in a "singular direction" .. // I wonder if you could somehow mock an autistic player on the chessboard, similar to fustilarians who smoke plants, "that provide cheap, sustainable fiber" with Down Syndrom people.

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DrSpudnik wrote:

All a diagnosis is is you going to a doctor and telling him what's wrong with you and then he translates it into some kind of Latin or Greek pidgin nonsense.

 

Yurm no. My autism diagnosis included developmental reports, screening with the AQ and EQ (Baron-Cohen), friendship quiestionare, social stories questionnaire, DISCO and a cognitive assessment report.  Also if you think it’s easy getting an official diagnosis for let’s say schizophrenia, I suggest you visit a psychiatrist and try and convince him/her. 

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bong711 wrote:

Sex is an outlet.

FOR EVERYTHING!

 

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For US players, my daughter works on the Colorado Crisis hotline and National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.  If chess ever traumatizes you or causes suicidal ideations, please call the national line.  They are staffed 24/7, nonjudgmental, helpful people.  Here's the number: 1-800-273-8255

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pdve wrote:

That is a strong argument. However, there are links between creativity and mental illness. People like John Nash who got treated for mental illness later complained that they lost most of their creativity with their illness.>>

Mental illnesses usually consist at least in part of delusions .... for instance, that a person has unusual creativity.

 

 

 

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hartofgoldrubinstein wrote:

I think anyone skilled in any field would qualify as crazy by a simple metric. What it all comes down to is their social skills and their speaking skills.

You nailed it. Professional chess requires little communication skill. Chess coaches are generally on the normal side And many chess professionals are college dropouts depriving themselves to improve communication skills.

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As many rely on passive learning like videos and audios, personality disorders will be prevalent. Coaches and teachers are still best. Especially in a class environment.

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And yet, world class Candyland players get by with no comment.

 

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Candyland is unknown to me. I played Monopoly.  I was surprised it existed since 1949 (Source: Wikipedia)