1000 rating unachievable for AVERAGE adult?

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OP, your friends probably are not studying chess or not serious in chess.

 

Intelligent is not a major component in chess. It may help to  improve a little bit faster,  may have + 100 rating bonus. No one cant magically get 1400, or 1600 without dedication.

 

Also, dont assume yourself less intelligent than others, it will just harm you. 

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zborg wrote:

Most adults are simply NOT interested in chess.  End of Story, and this mindless thread?  What planet are you guys on?  Stop navel gazing and play some chess.  Take you mind off this idiot thread.

The OP is trolling, (or too dumb to know better).  No more, no less.

True 

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Of course, 1000 is achievable. The question, however, is why do so many fail?

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/training-program-for-the-untalented

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I played a bit when I was a kid, but started 2 months ago and im nearing 1000. And I haven't even really 'studied' per se. Although I know that to take myself nearing 1500 will be the time when studying openings is necessary, so that will be my next step once I stop increasing in rating soon.

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Irgenus wrote:

Where I went to high school, 25% could literally not read and the "calculus" teacher could not FOIL...how can you teach chess to these people??

i think all of you are grossly exaggerating the mental capacities of the average person

Hmm.

Are we talking about people without mental disabilities? How is it possible not to be able to read in high school?

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any adult can achieve 1800 in classical  easily...if he spents 4 hours daily in chess learning with books/ apps/ video etc.

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In my country if someone has very low marks then he or she is left in the same school grade/year. I remember only one case from my experience when a boy with inferior intellectual capabilities was in the same grade for 3 years. But this is extremely unusual. Usually if someone is in the same grade it means he doesn't give a damn about studying and next year he advances to the next grade because it is very shameful even for boys who don't give a damn.

25% not able to read in high school sounds very wrong. Is this the case of black people mistreated in the US because of slavery history?

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If someone has low rating they shouldn’t study. A YouTube video is enough for them
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That's way to low. 

I've just started chess again a few days ago so getting to know it again but when I started on chess.com a few years ago I surpassed 1000 within a month. 

I apparently have a high IQ but this is not a proper measure of intelligence, only a type of intelligence not to mention you can research how to pass IQ tests with higher accuracy from a quick Google search.

In school I never had a higher grade then D although my teachers did say I'm smart enough to be a straight A student but I'm to much of a daydreamer and cannot focus. 

 

They say it is boredom of mundane lessons and I'm slightly dislexic. 

I can write fine but my spelling can be lazy, my problem is reading and absorbing information.

I need hands on visual learning for best results or auditory. 

 

So my intelligence probably balences out.

I learn new things quickly and I am good at anything I try just not reading. 

 

300 I don't think I could get to if I tried. 

 

One thing that's annoying about playing online is when your playing a 600 rated player but they are using an engine on there side to win. 

 

Cheating essentially.

 

I also don't think studying openings is neccisary. 

Tactics, stratergys, middle game, end game are all much more important.

Grandmasters often don't need to stick to standard openings from what I see. 

 

The amount of times of seen a4 as a first move which is suggested to be the worst opening move but yet they still win because its about how you follow it up. 

 

Openings study is good for principles but rembering a load of openings I will never be able to do. 

Also people are unpredictable so you can have openings in your mind, it doesn't mean they are going to follow your path unless it's forced. 

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Hello, community. 

I'm 37 and always loved chess. But just casually. Never studied it. I haven't played for years. Maybe 5 years or so. And even before that, I've played maybe 10-15 games a year. So, really not that much experience and as a kid I've learned basic principles so I know few openings. 

Now, I've registered yesterday to chess.com. I don't plan to study chess, because I don't have time for that unfortunately. But I want to play a few games a day here casually. 

What should be my goal in rating? I mean, below what rating should I just say that I'm really bad at chess and should not play?

I've played 18 games yesterday (rapid, 10 minutes per player). Won 13, lost 5.

Rating says 1174. I assume this fluctuates a lot because of a little number of games. 

Thanks in advance for any answers!

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You could look at my progress. I joined in February 2019, befor that I knew the rules and played a few games against friends, knew nothing about openings, tactics, strategy and endgames. I got 1000 in rapid in the first week at this site after a few video lessons and tactics. I like to watch the curves in my ratings. wink.png After 2 month I hit 1400 in rapid. Now I'm at 1600 so it's much harder to improve now but I'm hanging in there. Mostly because I get a great deal of satisfaction of improving.

 

So I may not be the average adult chess player but if I can do it in just one week then everyone could do it in a year if the want to. You just need to study more then you play and only play slow time controls. And if you don't enjoy that then it will be hard to get over a specific rating barrier,

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I’m an 1100 blitz (1200 rapid and OTB), and I’m of “average intelligence”, and I’ve also only been playing consistently for about a year (although I learned the game initially when I was 8). Getting good at chess is more of a discipline, rather than an intelligence. Analyze your games, And play puzzles. Don’t worry about your rating so much- just keep practicing and trying new things.

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I would consider myself to be of average or very slightly above average intelligence (tested 112 IQ on Stanford-Binet scale). I hold no advanced degrees, etc. For all intents and purposes, I am the typical American male, and I play at a roughly 1200 level over the board with standard time/900 rating in Blitz. Though I learned the rules of chess as a child, I never truly played competitive chess until earlier this year. I typically practice or play less than an hour a day.

 

Armed with this anecdotal evidence I am inclined to believe the general sentiment of those in the "anyone can hit 1000" camp. I would go beyond that though, I think 1500 rating is not at all some unattainable height for the average person who really dedicates herself/himself to learning chess (learning openings, tactics, getting coaching etc.). While I understand OP's thought that we on the chess.com forums are probably giving the "average" person too much credit, at least in my circumstance. that credit stems from a view that people in general are much more gifted then we might all think, only that our interests are typically quite mundane and thoughtless.

"Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses"

or something like that. Most people actively choose to focus on things which don't require a lot of creative thought, so most people won't reach 1000 simply because they don't want to think that hard, not because they aren't capable of it. My two cents.

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Depends on the time controls.
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I got 1000 in blitz on chess.com without ever reading or knowing openings or studying anything. BUT i played a ton of games every day for a year. So do with that information what you wish, im 35 years old and barely played chess before this year, i have a bachelors degree in art.

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AmethystWizard wrote:

I got 1000 in blitz on chess.com without ever reading or knowing openings or studying anything. BUT i played a ton of games every day for a year. So do with that information what you wish, im 35 years old and barely played chess before this year, i have a bachelors degree in art.

 

At that level, it is obvious that you have no knowledge about openings, tactics, or endgames. Rather than bragging about your ignorance, however, you should address those defects through training and get your rating up out of the cellar. Shoot for 1600 in the next six months.

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For someone new to chess I think 1000 is a great first goal. As an adult with a developed logic center 1000 is more than sufficient for anyone of any level to obtain. I think any average player could hope to achieve anywhere from 1200-1500 with just basic game play and following some of the learning tools on this site honestly. My dad barely plays and understands the basics but is sitting at 1012 as a super casual player and he is 64. Trying to get to 1500-2000 is where you will find the real challenges. It would require a good deal of effort and enjoyment for the game. Hope this helps.

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llama45 wrote:

1000 to 1600 in six months as a 35 year old? I think that would really be something.

In any case I don't think he was trying to impress you @ziryab, I think he was answering the topic's title.

 

No one tries to impress me. That would be foolish.

My point, snarky though it was, is a point I’ve made several times in this thread: 1000 is significantly below average. It is a beginning point for an adult who just learned chess, not an achievement. 

A reasonably intelligent college graduate should have the study skills to reach 1400+ in a couple of months, barring some mental hangups. Some people struggle with the psychology of competition, for instance.

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What rating are you discussing? It seems to me that the longer the time control, the weaker the player pool at low levels anyhow.

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A seasoned 1000 player can defeat a GM if the GM is in a losing position like in mate in 1 by mistake error 😨 

 

 

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