~1800 bullet looking to (maybe) play OTB in the future. How should I start

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2021blitzgrind

okok, for those of you reading this, I originally was going to not play OTB until I had a fairly solid rapid rating of 2000 over 20+ games, which meant that I was "capable" of performing decently.

But hopefully a few of you agree with me that that expectation was too high.

Also, 1800 bullet is probably not the best judgement for classical performance, but my blitz is extremely tilted right now (see: 1 win, 10 losses) and my rapid only has 4 games. So that's the best stat I've got.

If my goal with playing OTB is to obtain the highest rating possible, then with what's locally availible, is it best for me to play in:

1) U1200

2) U1500

3) U1800

4) Open

And, to even get into a tournament, what are the steps that I should take? I haven't really played any OTB at all other than a few "ultra casual" games with friends on a board at my house. I'm pretty sure we improperly set up the pieces once or twice. Thank you guys for the help.

1c6O-1

just GRIND puzzles, study openings and remember to take ur time, also play lots of rapid

I'd say prob U1200 but idk

Nhkr

I recommend you to visit a chess club near your home, spend time there, play lot of games, meet new people and soon begin to play OTB tournaments with no pressure. And above everything have fun.

ninjaswat

Don't start with rated OTB until you've done at least some 15|10 and 30|0 games, the games will be that length of longer. Also, everyone is MUCH BETTER over the board, players over 1800 will NEVER bounded pieces or maybe even pawns... 

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

u should start very carefully.

Dragondom1

Open I think

Moonwarrior_1
ninjaswat wrote:

Don't start with rated OTB until you've done at least some 15|10 and 30|0 games, the games will be that length of longer. Also, everyone is MUCH BETTER over the board, players over 1800 will NEVER bounded pieces or maybe even pawns... 

 

Moonwarrior_1
horselover123 wrote:

U1200 or U1500 but probably U1200

I mean I'm choosing between U1200 and U1500 for myself lol

Imma do U1200

2021blitzgrind
Moonwarrior_1 wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Don't start with rated OTB until you've done at least some 15|10 and 30|0 games, the games will be that length of longer. Also, everyone is MUCH BETTER over the board, players over 1800 will NEVER bounded pieces or maybe even pawns... 

 

Used to play lichess classical... Was rated about where I am now in bullet. That was when I was 1200 here... Although I might've adopted some bad habits.

Moonwarrior_1
2021blitzgrind wrote:
Moonwarrior_1 wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Don't start with rated OTB until you've done at least some 15|10 and 30|0 games, the games will be that length of longer. Also, everyone is MUCH BETTER over the board, players over 1800 will NEVER bounded pieces or maybe even pawns... 

 

Used to play lichess classical... Was rated about where I am now in bullet. That was when I was 1200 here... Although I might've adopted some bad habits.

Hmm

ninjaswat

Wow AUTOCORRECT killed my previous post... Sorry if it's unreadable...

Moonwarrior_1

LOL

ninjaswat
Moonwarrior_1 wrote:

LOL

im on mobile dont kill me moooooon

Moonwarrior_1

I mean I’ve done worse auto correct almost got me muted the other day I had to edit it in light speed 

2021blitzgrind
verylate wrote:

if you want to play OTB tournaments (real pieces! real clocks! real people!), stop playing bullet. Learn to sit on your hands and think. Maybe try some old school training; i.e, with a real board and pieces on your desk, and a chess book made of paper. You can still play lots of blitz and bullet between tournament games, but get used to the slower pace of real life.

I hate this argument; while it is good for some slower practice, I don't think it means stopping bullet and blitz training. There are plenty of talented players out there who are GMs in slow chess and the best in the world in bullet/blitz.

 

ninjaswat
2021blitzgrind wrote:
verylate wrote:

if you want to play OTB tournaments (real pieces! real clocks! real people!), stop playing bullet. Learn to sit on your hands and think. Maybe try some old school training; i.e, with a real board and pieces on your desk, and a chess book made of paper. You can still play lots of blitz and bullet between tournament games, but get used to the slower pace of real life.

I hate this argument; while it is good for some slower practice, I don't think it means stopping bullet and blitz training. There are plenty of talented players out there who are GMs in slow chess and the best in the world in bullet/blitz.

 

And what were they doing to train for classical? Studying lines and positional concepts and puzzles...

Boydcarts

I'd venture to say the GM's who are good at bullet/blitz mastered classical play first. I've found in most endeavors if you focus on "good" the "fast" will take care of itself. If you focus on fast the good may never come. Unfortunately for me, as far as chess is concerned I'm still working on good.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

Used to play lichess classical

is thatta forma music ?

KeSetoKaiba
Nhkr wrote:

I recommend you to visit a chess club near your home, spend time there, play lot of games, meet new people and soon begin to play OTB tournaments with no pressure. And above everything have fun.

+1 

Agreed. I wouldn't worry about rating much when starting out; the chess organization will calculate the ratings and decide your section(s). You just have to show up and play. A lot of OTB is just experience. You'll undoubtedly feel nervous to different degrees for the first month or so, but everyone feels that way. 

Just do your best and try to take in the experience. 

p.s. I found a local chess club near me shortly after I crossed 1500 on chess.com (10 min games 1500 which used to be under "blitz" category, but now 10 min games are "rapid" which I think is more accurate). I probably played my first OTB rated event around the time I was 1600 on chess.com

jetoba

If you can find a small club's single-section tournament then you can enter that.  As an unrated normal Swiss pairings would have you playing somebody just over the mid-point of the players' rating range.  If you win you will play a stronger player and if you lose you will play a weaker one so it would automatically shunt you against appropriate opposition (well, kind of, if your strength is already 40th percentile or 60th percentile then you will spend the rounds bouncing between playing stronger and weaker pairings - in a short Swiss people often will never get paired against somebody that is their strength).

Play plenty of games at a slower time control.  Having more time to think may get you to the point where you are seeing things better and may even improve your bullet games.