A 3000 could easily beat a 2000, but could a 4000 easily beat a 3000?

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SmyslovFan

EndgameStudier, the rating system *here* is flawed, but FIDE's rating system has it right. In FIDE, an unrated player is unrated. They don't have an assigned initial rating.

 

The provisional ratings work the way they are supposed to. But that is irrelevant for engines because they can play thousands of games in a very short amount of time.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

FIDE sounds more like the real thing. USCF system seems pretty crappy.

SmyslovFan

USCF uses the same basic system FIDE does, with minor exceptions.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

It takes more to be a FIDE master than to be a USCF Master. I know people who say they are rated in both and they don't even care about their USCF, they use that one to sandbag and then win the FIDE prize money LOL

darkunorthodox88
EndgameStudier wrote:

It takes more to be a FIDE master than to be a USCF Master. I know people who say they are rated in both and they don't even care about their USCF, they use that one to sandbag and then win the FIDE prize money LOL

dont tell them!

 

its true. a FIDE candidate master is stronger than a USCF national master.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

I'm not gonna be a snitch lol. In fact, it doesn't even work because even the top prizes of state tournaments don't cover the travel expenses, entry fees, hotel nights, food, gas, and tolls that you gotta pay just to go to one.

darkunorthodox88
EndgameStudier wrote:

I'm not gonna be a snitch lol. In fact, it doesn't even work because even the top prizes of state tournaments don't cover the travel expenses, entry fees, hotel nights, food, gas, and tolls that you gotta pay just to go to one.

in my experience, first place without sharing is sufficient to cover the costs, but hardly flattering net profit. this is especially true if you carpool and share hotel rooms with your chess friends.

 

but still, point taken.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Top prizes are usually like 3000 dollars in state tournaments (in top sections). Last time I went to Albany, it was like almost a thousand dollars, and the top prize in my section was 800. I got a 3-way tie for second place so I only won like 200.

prsr8

pls listen to me a 3000 computer dose not mean that he could not beat the 4000 computer but which one has more practice can win but u would say that it has more training but some inserts they put are put by the humans so humans dose not makes mistakes so a 3000 can also beat a 4000 

 

prsr8

sorry humans dose make mistakes

 

prsr8

like now i made a mistake in this letter

prsr8

so please fix the mistake

 

prsr8

so it is not worth it talking about it

 

EndgameEnthusiast2357
prsr8 wrote:

pls listen to me a 3000 computer dose not mean that he could not beat the 4000 computer but which one has more practice can win but u would say that it has more training but some inserts they put are put by the humans so humans dose not makes mistakes so a 3000 can also beat a 4000 

 

But computers would probably have an even higher rating given that they make no mistakes, so maybe it would be rated 10,000, not 3,000 or 4,000

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Actually, even a 3000 may have slight difficuly beating a 2000, here's an expert, not a class C player lol, maybe I should have phrased it as a 2000 beating a 1,000 vs a 4,000 beating a 3000.

kingsleyye

there is no evidence that a 3000 will beat a 2000 easily

 

EndgameEnthusiast2357
kingsleyye wrote:

there is no evidence that a 3000 will beat a 2000 easily

 

I drew a master at least 3 times in casual games at chess clubs, and I'm only 1553 OTB, 1653 online.

NikkiLikeChikki
Both Stockfish and Leela destroy low ranked engines in computer championships, and the difference is about 500-700. I think the latest versions of those engines are over 3600. So yes, it would be carnage if Stockfish reached 4000 and it were to play like Scorpio or Winter.
sndeww

I'm pretty sure the difference between a 2000 and a 1000 is much smaller than the difference between a 3000 and a 2000. Why? When you get higher, you have to consistently defeat everyone just to maintain your rating. Which means the higher you are, it is like exponentially stronger or something. I'm bad at graphs and statistics so I may be wrong.

DarkKnightAttack
EndgameStudier wrote:

When a rating gets 3000 and above, it's all the same right? A 10,000 vs a 3000 would be a challenge.

Without a doubt! It will be "easy" for 4000, not us.