A Newbie drew Stockfish at highest level (2 draws so far)

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From your picture:

Depth 15, at 0:00:00 thinking time.

lol

(edit, now you changed it. Depth 17 after 1 second in multi PV mode.)

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I Don't know whether OP is a troll not, but I still believe this Is an Iteresting goal. I myself almost entirely play against bots, and I like to watch people trying hard to draw or even win against them.

 

I have an IQ over 9000, so I know how to beat any chess cpu, but from a pure entertaIment point of View, I like to watch people struggle against the machines.

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Sorry, I wanted to do it fast. If I leave it more time, depth 19, it's the same result. I can leave it calculating the whole day, it stays c3 as the top option and not changing.

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p8q wrote:

Sorry, I wanted to do it fast. If I leave it more time, depth 19, it's the same result. I can leave it calculating the whole day, it stays c3 as the top option and not changing.

I'm not so forgetful that I don't remember your OP:

 

p8q wrote:

Time control:

In order to get quality moves from the machine, I'm allowing my smartphone to think for at least 40 seconds before each move: that's 11 million of positions.

 

 

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p8q a écrit :
JamesAgadir wrote:
drmrboss a écrit :
forked_again wrote:

I think he is a troll and a liar and the fact that drmrboss is here cheering him on pretty much confirms my point.  

 

Open your friends list and sort them by newest first...

Ah, so you are TwistOrStay? the one who used stockfish against me in a 30 minutes match? heheheh. I almost beat you. (Well, I almost beat your stockfish, I mean ).

No.

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Yes, 9 months ago I did it that way. Now, from some months ago, I'm making it think longer, and I set 8 cores, now it is thinking at 1700knps, it's reaching many more millions than that.

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p8q wrote:

Sorry, I wanted to do it fast. If I leave it more time, depth 19, it's the same result. I can leave it calculating the whole day, it stays c3 as the top option and not changing.

What part of "I have stockfish and I already checked" do you not understand?

Obvious troll is obvious.

It's too bad they don't let us see all previous topics made like in V1 and V2. I'm getting Déjà vu from this topic and your name.

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llama44 wrote:
p8q wrote:

Sorry, I wanted to do it fast. If I leave it more time, depth 19, it's the same result. I can leave it calculating the whole day, it stays c3 as the top option and not changing.

I'm not so forgetful that I don't remember your OP:

 

p8q wrote:

Time control:

In order to get quality moves from the machine, I'm allowing my smartphone to think for at least 40 seconds before each move: that's 11 million of positions.

 

 

 

No matter how long I keep the computer thinking, that time value doesn't change, it could be ChessX app bug? But try it at home, let the computer think one whole hour and you will see it yourself.

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p8q wrote:

try it at home, let the computer think one whole hour and you will see it yourself.

I let it think for 5 seconds. On depth ~22 it rates c3 as 3rd best.

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JamesAgadir wrote:
p8q a écrit :
JamesAgadir wrote:
drmrboss a écrit :
forked_again wrote:

I think he is a troll and a liar and the fact that drmrboss is here cheering him on pretty much confirms my point.  

 

Open your friends list and sort them by newest first...

Ah, so you are TwistOrStay? the one who used stockfish against me in a 30 minutes match? heheheh. I almost beat you. (Well, I almost beat your stockfish, I mean ).

No.

If you are not, why do you say about doing that with my friends list?

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llama44 wrote:
p8q wrote:

try it at home, let the computer think one whole hour and you will see it yourself.

I let it think for 5 seconds. On depth ~22 it rates c3 as 3rd best.

I'm doing the same thing here, and it says c3 as 1st best.

Which version of stockfish are you running? what's your hardware?

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p8q a écrit :
JamesAgadir wrote:
p8q a écrit :
JamesAgadir wrote:
drmrboss a écrit :
forked_again wrote:

I think he is a troll and a liar and the fact that drmrboss is here cheering him on pretty much confirms my point.  

 

Open your friends list and sort them by newest first...

Ah, so you are TwistOrStay? the one who used stockfish against me in a 30 minutes match? heheheh. I almost beat you. (Well, I almost beat your stockfish, I mean ).

No.

If you are not, why do you say about doing that with my friends list?

I wasn't talking to you. Look at who I quoted.

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p8q wrote:

I'm doing the same thing here, and it says c3 as 1st best.

Feel free to post a screenshot that isn't at 0 or 3 seconds.

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Actually, since you said you let it think 40 seconds, post a screenshot after 40 seconds.

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In arena I get the same result

 

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Bro, the depth is 15/25. That's like a zero second think. It means the deepest line was 25.

Let it think 40 seconds like you said.

But anyway, I'll stop posting here for a while. It's not like you're fooling anyone wink.png

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llama44 wrote:

Actually, since you said you let it think 40 seconds, post a screenshot after 40 seconds.

If I do that crazy request of posting 60 pictures, one for every single move, you will say I won because of stockfish configuration contempt, or you will say some other thing. For you it will never be enough.

The best idea, or the only solution, is someone call a journalist and we make a documentary of how I'm doing it. I invite the journalist to come at home, or we do a "big brother show" or something that shows I'm not carrying device. Etc.

Right now, the most practical way to check it out is analyzing the game. To run statistical cheating software I suppose.

But if someone has the resources for the journalist idea, I'm in. I will accept.

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llama44 wrote:

Bro, the depth is 15/25. That's like a zero second think. It means the deepest line was 25.

Let it think 40 seconds like you said.

But anyway, I'll stop posting here for a while. It's not like you're fooling anyone

100 % strength. If it doesn't think more than the depth it thinks is because of the fact that we are still in the opening. The rest of moves out of the opening is thinking 25 depth. And you have also already seen the screenshot from chessX software.

I'm not trying to fool anyone. I just proved that c3 is stockfish move, but you will never accept the truth in front of your eyes, no matter how many configuration screenshots I post.

If you really don't believe me, invite me to your home for a week, check that I'm not carrying any device and I will draw (or win) stockfish in your computer. As simple as that.

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Anyways, all those posts with picture configurations were not necessary. The fact that c3 and the rest of moves by stockfish are the best moves is something that anyone can see in their software analysis at home. Even chess.com analysis shows that stockfish played with 0 inaccuracies.

So, your thoughts of not running stockfish with enough strength, time, or contempt, etc. don't make any sense, because in that case the analysis would show inaccuracies and mistakes.

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My chess.com blitz rating is inflated.

But it's still 2200. I'm not a total idiot when it comes to chess.

These arguments are see through.

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