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Ziryab wrote:
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I play the Catalan.

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

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Asparagusic_acids wrote:
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llama44 wrote:
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Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

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Ziryab wrote:
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llama44 wrote:
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llama44 wrote:

Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

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llama44 wrote:
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llama44 wrote:

Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

 

You should play it more. It will make you a better chess player.

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Could you guys quote more? I know this detailed discussion requires 20 posts worth of context, but I still feel like we're lacking in the tower of quotes department.

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Ziryab wrote:
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llama44 wrote:
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llama44 wrote:

Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

 

You should play it more. It will make you a better chess player.

Playing d4/nf3 gives me a much better understanding of the open, also I am good at playing positionaly.

 

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llama44 wrote:

Could you guys quote more? I know this detailed discussion requires 20 posts worth of context, but I still feel like we're lacking in the tower of quotes department.

Quotes make hijacking threads easier.

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llama44 wrote:
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llama44 wrote:

Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

 

You should play it more. It will make you a better chess player.

Playing d4/nf3 gives me a much better understanding of the open, also I am good at playing positionaly.

 

 

1.Nf3 e6 2.d4 f5

 

Still comfortable?

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Awwww Yeaaaaah.

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I feel bad for @p8q though.

This was such a serious and truthful topic.

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Ziryab wrote:
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llama44 wrote:
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Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

 

You should play it more. It will make you a better chess player.

Playing d4/nf3 gives me a much better understanding of the open, also I am good at playing positionaly.

 

 

1.Nf3 e6 2.d4 f5

 

Still comfortable?

I play h3 after that. 

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I meant g3

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As Magnus said, “that’s not how it works.”

My favorite game after wine tasting. I arrived 20 minutes late for round two and played fast. I had White.

 

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Oh, no way, you got to play that mate at a tournament?

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llama44 wrote:
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llama44 wrote:

Oh, I think I figured out most of your notation errors (there are a lot)

Still, I don't like that line

Whites defense is pretty easy, which allows white to pawn storm black and defend at the same time.

Or... you just wanted to have some fun insulting someone, and now that you're actually looking at the game it's hard to justify it.

It is hard for <2000 fide to play because as black you need to slowly build up your position before breaking through(assuming that white plays badly) which is difficult for attacking players who play this variation.

 This data consists only of games I've played that begin 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5.

I'd say that Black is doing okay.



Black is probably doing better than usual because this is a rare line.

 

Not that rare in my experience. The total number of games in ECO C00-C19 in my personal database is barely over 20,000 and 3242 are in that "rare" line. Overall, in my games Black does slightly better than the mainline exchange. As White, I usually enter the Exchange via 1.e4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.d4--from the line given in the earlier post, 4.c4 is not the most popular move, but it does score better for White than the alternatives.



That line is probably objectively bad, even though it is ok in practice.

 

It is becoming increasingly clear that your 13.g4 was not a typing error, but what you genuinely thought was a reasonable move.

The line is solid, but offers White minimal advantage. It's thus a lot like that garbage London System that Magnus Carlsen plays. 

I gotta say that your performance against that "bad" line is singularly impressive.



I play the Catalan.

 

Me too. But not only that.

90% of my games as white start either with nf3 or d4.

 

60% of mine do.

The only reason you see e4 is that I played it when I was 1400.

 

You should play it more. It will make you a better chess player.

Playing d4/nf3 gives me a much better understanding of the open, also I am good at playing positionaly.

 

 

1.Nf3 e6 2.d4 f5

 

Still comfortable?

I play h3 after that. 

 

g3 is good, but isn’t the knight better placed on h3?

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Oh, no way, you got to play that mate at a tournament?

Very fun

 

It’s easy to avoid checkmate. Just give up the queen. My opponent decided to resign and go home to his queen.

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Here is one of my otb games that shows why I don't play e4.

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The game from JustMeOkay user:

One second per move match against Komodo 11

 

 

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Incredible match human vs machine with no handicap whatsoever. He got an incredible draw. His faith on it made it happen.

I post it here for people to enjoy it. JustMeOkay was white. Komodo 11 was black. 1 second per move.

I knew I wasn't the only one. All these skeptic losers were starting to make me feel like a chess god.

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