Aborting a game before your first move should not be a violation!

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AunTheKnight

I know who it is by the profile picture.

SamtheMan

Your pairings are what you get, and you can't change them. How about you just go with it? I get points when people abort anyway.

SamtheMan

And that setting doesn't change it much. You can still get players 25 points over your rating.

SamtheMan

Yes there is a penalty, you lose points if you were playing black.

25GSchatz22
forked_again wrote:

Hmm I'm surprised to see defense of this rule.  

First, What's wrong with being biased about who you play?  The computer is definitely biased and does not choose opponents randomly.  It gives you bunches of lower rated players and then a bunch of higher rate players.  As a result you will see most people's rating graph has big up and down fluctuations.  I guess that's how this chess website likes to do it but it's not how I would like to do it.  Strictly random within your chosen range would be preferable to me.

If people don't want to play higher rated players they can do that simply by setting their preference to +0, -400, for example.

But for people who only want to play white, perhaps there just needs to some limit, like a warning if you are aborting 3 in a row or more than 10% of games or something like that?

You are playing on chess.com. If everyone doesn't follow the rule to not abort, then it isn't fair for players who play anyway. If you don't want to lose and don't want to play fair, don't play on chess.com. 

AunTheKnight
SamtheMan wrote:

Your pairings are what you get, and you can't change them. How about you just go with it? I get points when people abort anyway.

Ay what is up?

25GSchatz22

yep and it's unfair to abort constantly. Just play the game and be a good sport

SamtheMan

Hi Aun!

 

SamtheMan

And yes, I meant that

SamtheMan

How did this start from a weird Nc3 post

 

SamtheMan

that board only had one move

andy4810

Aborting a game before the first move has an impact on your opponent. He/she was waiting for an opponent. Then found an opponent. The opponent aborts. That time has been lost. Within that time there may have been an opportunity to play another opponent and that opportunity has been missed.

With variants (live 960, live Crazy House) this is worse. There is more waiting time involved before there is an opponent. The negative impact of aborting is therefore even bigger with variants.

I'm happy that it is considered a violation.

 

Like I said, I did not sign up for a variant.  I signed up for a classical chess tournament,

locoturbo

Had my first abort recently - I was black, my opponent started with c4 and I had no idea what to do. I really hate that it won't even allow me to think a bit on the first move. It's not like I've memorized all the openings.

Born2slaYer

I think it will be biased against someone you will be playing if you abort the game just because you don't wanna play why should one waste his time ?

KenLisa1
When people play unconventional opening moves such as Nf3, Nc3 or e3, I always abort. Why should I waste my time playing against something I will see once every 200 games. Life is too short to use my precious time defending against some gimmick.
forked_again
KenLisa1 wrote:
When people play unconventional opening moves such as Nf3, Nc3 or e3, I always abort. Why should I waste my time playing against something I will see once every 200 games. Life is too short to use my precious time defending against some gimmick.

Thats an odd point of view.  I think a lot of people would say its pretty boring if all your games look identical after the first 10 moves.  People play openings without thinking.  A novel position is a true battle of wits.  You should enjoy it.  

Lord_Of_Dragons736

It is a violation because although it might not seem like much to you, it's pretty annoying to your opponent. So chess.com does not allow you to abort over and over again so when you abort it gives you that little popup about the sportsmanship policy. 

StormCentre3
forked_again wrote:

People who abandon games because they are losing and they want to make you wait instead of resigning is infuriating and rightly against policy.

But before move 1, it should be my right to decide whether I want to play it not after I see who the opponent is.

An example of when I will abort a game is when I'm on a losing streak.  The computer decides to give me 5 opponents in a row all higher rated than me.  I'm losing and feeling like crap and just want to win one and then bam, opponent number 6 is 150 points higher then me.  Ugh.  I don't need any more games like my last 5. So I abort.

What's wrong with that?  It is not an inconvenience to my opponent, unless you consider the struggle of clicking a mouse button an inconvenience.  I don't care if people do it to me.  It should not be against the rules.

Discuss 😁

There is nothing to discuss here. Your main reason to abort - you don’t want to play opponents 150+ higher when you’re on a losing streak.

A mountain out of a molehill - looking to place blame in CC for “violating your right to choose”.

Haven’t figured it out by now ? (Since being a member from 2008)

In settings you can set your seek parameters- play players only +50 / -200

 

brasileirosim

I don’t understand why to abort. If you request a game you should play, if you don’t want to play don’t request a game. 

KenLisa1
To forked_again, There is a reason why masters and GM’s don’t play first moves such as a4, h4, or b4 as opening moves as white. It’s because they are inferior moves. So yes I abort against moves like these in hopes that the poor smuck will learn from this and not play such moves in the future. It can take years to learn the Sicilian, why should I waste years trying to learn something that I already know is inferior. You say a novel position is a true battle of wits. I say there are no novelties on move one, just competent moves or mistakes.