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ChessChainlinks1
Seriously chessdotcom. You have a limit on computer analysis after live games. I really have to purchase a premium membership? Li*****.org has unlimited computer analysis for free.
notmtwain
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
Seriously chessdotcom. You have a limit on computer analysis after live games. I really have to purchase a premium membership? Li*****.org has unlimited computer analysis for free.

 

There are many features on chess.com that make a premium membership worthwhile.  Advanced computer analysis is just one of them. Puzzle Rush, Puzzle Battle, quality broadcasts, world class tournament hosting and snappy forum help are some of the other features.

ChessChainlinks1

What if I am not interested in the other features?

JamesColeman

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

sndeww
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
Seriously chessdotcom. You have a limit on computer analysis after live games. I really have to purchase a premium membership? Li*****.org has unlimited computer analysis for free.

Personally I think the chesscom engine analysis is much more user friendly. For example, in LC chess analysis, after you run it through it overpopulates your games with 

INACCURACY: ksadfjlaeiwmflaisejfoiajsefaef

a6 b5 21. Be6 Bd5

MISTAKE: aisdfjaoiemfnaiwofjaioefjaosedfj

...and it makes it very hard to read. The chesscom engine shows all of that, but with a graphical design, which I like. The PGNs don't have all that INACCURACY: *20 moves of engine nonsense* 

sndeww

would it be any different if it was just printed in the text?

INACCURACY: move move move move move move move 

... does not make it any more clearer than the chesscom analysis.

sndeww
long_quach wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

would it be any different if it was just printed in the text?

INACCURACY: move move move move move move move 

... does not make it any more clearer than the chesscom analysis.

You can set the threshold, I call it the resolution.

I set it to ¼ of a pawn. It would tell me I'm inaccurate only if it finds a move that's greater than ¼ of a pawn.

Its notation is almost like reading from a book before computers were invented (mathematically speaking).

I mean, I'm just speaking from preference. I like it more "graphically", so to speak. It doesn't matter that much.

notmtwain
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:

What if I am not interested in the other features?

Well, they come as a package.

Personally, I think that $2.42 per month for a gold membership is not too expensive.  They haven't changed prices for a long time, maybe ever.   I have been expecting a price increase for the last few years.

ChessChainlinks1
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

notmtwain
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

I often used Arena as a free GUI.  I think it's still free.  

notmtwain
long_quach wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:

There are many features on chess.com that make a premium membership worthwhile. 

Everything on Chess.com steers you toward paying for a membership. It's the way it is designed.

Including this Forum.

I know I'm a chump posting on this Forum, but I have the make the Faustian bargain.

Oh please.  You aren't interested in playing chess. You have been coming here for years and you have played, what, 12 games?   

You have to do something. 

/ What did you get in return for the bargain? Nothing.

/ Before you start that nonsense about waiting for chess.com to change its time controls again, there has always been the ability to set up custom seeks.  If you want 30 minutes with 20 seconds increment, then set it up. It's not hard.

EscherehcsE
notmtwain wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

I often used Arena as a free GUI.  I think it's still free.  

Yep, Arena is still free, and it's a decent option. I still use it fairly regularly. However, it does have a few quirks/bugs that you may run across. When I'd run an auto analysis on a game, it would always stop the analysis two plies short of the end of the game. I never did figure out how to fix this. I finally discovered that if I added two null moves to the end of the game, then everything would be fine.

http://www.playwitharena.de/

Another option to consider is Lucas Chess.

https://lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/

 

sndeww
long_quach wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

I mean, I'm just speaking from preference. I like it more "graphically", so to speak. It doesn't matter that much.

With a little elbow grease and Excel skills, you can do it "graphically" in Chessmaster 3000 for DOS, free using DOSshell and DOSbox.

I'm just a casual. Since I'm only 15, I don't really have the time to do that stuff... Most people have some sort of actual engine but I'm just fine with using a slightly worse engine

ChessChainlinks1
EscherehcsE wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

I often used Arena as a free GUI.  I think it's still free.  

Yep, Arena is still free, and it's a decent option. I still use it fairly regularly. However, it does have a few quirks/bugs that you may run across. When I'd run an auto analysis on a game, it would always stop the analysis two plies short of the end of the game. I never did figure out how to fix this. I finally discovered that if I added two null moves to the end of the game, then everything would be fine.

http://www.playwitharena.de/

Another option to consider is Lucas Chess.

https://lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/

 

IIs arena available for Linux? I don't use Windows at all.

EscherehcsE
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

I often used Arena as a free GUI.  I think it's still free.  

Yep, Arena is still free, and it's a decent option. I still use it fairly regularly. However, it does have a few quirks/bugs that you may run across. When I'd run an auto analysis on a game, it would always stop the analysis two plies short of the end of the game. I never did figure out how to fix this. I finally discovered that if I added two null moves to the end of the game, then everything would be fine.

http://www.playwitharena.de/

Another option to consider is Lucas Chess.

https://lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/

 

IIs arena available for Linux? I don't use Windows at all.

Yep.

ChessChainlinks1
EscherehcsE wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

If analysis is all you want, you can download the full version of Stockfish onto your PC (much stronger than the site based version). It’s free. 

I use scid vs pc and stockfish. Can you recommend some other free program other than scid?

I often used Arena as a free GUI.  I think it's still free.  

Yep, Arena is still free, and it's a decent option. I still use it fairly regularly. However, it does have a few quirks/bugs that you may run across. When I'd run an auto analysis on a game, it would always stop the analysis two plies short of the end of the game. I never did figure out how to fix this. I finally discovered that if I added two null moves to the end of the game, then everything would be fine.

http://www.playwitharena.de/

Another option to consider is Lucas Chess.

https://lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/

 

IIs arena available for Linux? I don't use Windows at all.

Yep.

Right now I am using pc vs scid. But there is an issue with the Linux version. In the pgn window, there is no scroll bar. If I have a lot of analysis that runs off the page, it makes it difficult to scroll down, and it is a pain.

EscherehcsE
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:

Right now I am using pc vs scid. But there is an issue with the Linux version. In the pgn window, there is no scroll bar. If I have a lot of analysis that runs off the page, it makes it difficult to scroll down, and it is a pain.

Your lack of scroll bar is in the Linux version of Scid vs. PC? Huh, my install does have a scroll bar in the PGN window. I'm running one version back (ver 4.20-1). I installed it via a 3rd party deb file.

EscherehcsE
long_quach wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
long_quach wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

I mean, I'm just speaking from preference. I like it more "graphically", so to speak. It doesn't matter that much.

With a little elbow grease and Excel skills, you can do it "graphically" in Chessmaster 3000 for DOS, free using DOSshell and DOSbox.

I'm just a casual. Since I'm only 15, I don't really have the time to do that stuff... Most people have some sort of actual engine but I'm just fine with using a slightly worse engine

Excel is an incredible tool. Doesn't matter how old or how young you are, learn it.

The kind of skills I use to manipulate Chessmaster 3000 analysis print out is the same skill I use for work every day. And I started out young, back in the CM 3000 for Windows and the very first Excel (which was a rip off of Lotus 1-2-3).

Not just for numerical stuff. It's a manipulable database for anything.

This has been another "back in the days" story.

Sorry, I recently jumped off the Microsoft train, never to return. So, unless Microsoft is willing to give me a free copy of Excel for Linux, I'll have to say no thanks.

ChessChainlinks1
EscherehcsE wrote:
ChessChainlinks1 wrote:

Right now I am using pc vs scid. But there is an issue with the Linux version. In the pgn window, there is no scroll bar. If I have a lot of analysis that runs off the page, it makes it difficult to scroll down, and it is a pain.

Your lack of scroll bar is in the Linux version of Scid vs. PC? Huh, my install does have a scroll bar in the PGN window. I'm running one version back (ver 4.20-1). I installed it via a 3rd party deb file.

It is ok after I recompiled it. I use mine from source, not 3rd party.

ChessChainlinks1

Simple to run my own analysis on my computer, instead of paying for a membership here. A lot of what they are selling here I can get for free.