All of "them"? Speaking of rubbish
Anand is the first GM from origin of chess
It was a different game, an ancestor of chess. Even now they have a different one there I think. The game Anand plays as a professional was developed in Europe.
Well @Pulpofeira, that is as funny as your posts are relevant. Your points have been noted and are most helpful in painting a clearer picture.
I think they are in struggle of British colonialism until around year of 1947. After that chess is need formalism to be popular in their society.
Do you know they have invented calculus 50 years prior to Newton and Leibniz ? It needs a formalism in order to be established.
Anyone here remember a story about a Indian servant who played chess as side. He is being cited as being a master at the game.
Think the Youtube channel, ChessAgmonter or something covered one of his few recorded games.
Surely not the OP. First I have heard of this. Probably more common than we know. Video is of interest. Thanks for the lead.
A mare formality? Hmm I s'pose formality may change things, especially where chess is concerned.
The environment will drive someone or something.
Actually India produces a lot of GM's.
They just cannot buy some, as they do in USA, to win olympiads.
How is this possible? India invented the game and produced no GM for thousands of years?
That's because no one was called a "grandmaster" until relatively modern times, long after the game had evolved into the European rules that are mostly followed today.
Note that one of the greatest players was Moheschunder Bonnerjee, an Indian in the mid-1800's who is the reason for the name "Indian Defenses:" he played according to European Rules even though he had always played with Indian rules where the Pawns could not more 2 squares on their first move, so his defenses were often based on moving the Pawn one square.
Actually India produces a lot of GM's.
They just cannot buy some, as they do in USA, to win olympiads.
Good. Point, it has angered MANY American chessplayers over the last half-century that the U.S. Chess Federation is more concerned with luring foreign chessmasters to America than in developing chess among young people - where it does mostly NOTHING.
A number of chessplaying teachers in my county developed regular, low-cost tournaments and generated hundreds of active teenage chessplayers representing county schools. The U.S. Chess Federation offered NO help whatsoever. After we teachers retired and chess playing was greatly reduced in our county and state, the USCF wasn't bothered at all.
How is this possible? India invented the game and produced no GM for thousands of years?
That's because no one was called a "grandmaster" until relatively modern times, long after the game had evolved into the European rules that are mostly followed today.
Note that one of the greatest players was Moheschunder Bonnerjee, an Indian in the mid-1800's who is the reason for the name "Indian Defenses:" he played according to European Rules even though he had always played with Indian rules where the Pawns could not more 2 squares on their first move, so his defenses were often based on moving the Pawn one square.
Glad you spoke up. And thanks for sharing that information about Moheschunder Bonnerjee! I'd never heard of him before! I love looking at games from that era.
MickinMD makes some good points. The official term "Grandmaster" is relatively new. In fact, it was only after the Second World War that it became an official title, issued by a recognized international body. Also, the game of chess as traditionally played in India differed is several ways from the game as it developed in Europe, and for several centuries there was relatively little contact between European and Indian players. But India is certainly making up for lost time!
How is this possible? India invented the game and produced no GM for thousands of years?
Please read more research. It is an incorrect misconception that India has invented the game. More recent research and archaeology suggests that most likely the prototype of the game originally has arrived to India from China where they had a game based on the war across the Yalo river (I think it is Yalo) where two sides would shoot arrows and cannons at each other. Then the game was either prohibited temporarily or forgotten for an extended period of time in China, but it has spread to India where it transformed into another game that more closely resembles modern chess.
Another serious point is this. Why would you expect India , even if it had invented the game in history, to produce more GMs? More recent chess history explains why most expert players began to appear in Persia and North Africa and then accelerated in Europe where the game was modified into more accessible form.
In case of Russia, Chess popularity has risen in the late 19th century when European rules were accepted. But Russia had older versions of chess for at least a thousand years or so when it was introduced there from Persia.
How is this possible? India invented the game and produced no GM for thousands of years?