anti anxiety meds and chess

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ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Naw, only modern types get offended.  I just lay around in my 1970s fringe jacket and flip flops and snicker a lot.

That's so offensive.  Now I need meds. 

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Most people who are on meds don't even need them, it is just for the pharmaceutical industry to keep making money.

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hikarunaku wrote, "Smoking helps you concentrate lol."

Why do you laugh? Your guess (I guess) may own some validity. A psychology journal I read stated people with schizoid-type mental illness brains identify with the nicotine in cigarette smoke. Incidentally, I will go out on a limb and guess what the post meant by, "smoking?" The schizoid warped mind (perception) identifying with nicotine doesn't necessarily mean it helps them to concentrate but it very well may indeed. Arguments I have heard already seemed to focus on; "It raises your heart rate, inclines toward hypothermia." "Therefore, cannot aide in concertation." However, Adderal and Ritalin are drugs proscribed to those who suffer from Attention  Deficient Disorder. They basically have the same effect. I hate/love playing in the CCA tournaments I play in around the country because there are points in the tourney I would light my cigarette, if it were allowed, especially during the endgame.

Ciao

Timothy Scott Puente

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Doctors who put people on medication for anxiety probably should be shot, or at least criticised severely. They're replacing a problem that can easily be sorted with the complications of being able or unable to sort your life because the medications are interfering with your ability to understand your own problems. I hear they even put people on meds when they're bereaved, these days. They're no more than quacks. Never trust a doctor who puts people on drugs as a first resort.

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P.s., I don't know what the argument about concentration is for but smoking definitely helps concentration because the drugs in tobacco act as a mild stimulant and depressant combination. The depressive effects tend to cut out random thoughts, thus aiding concentration.

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Back in the days when I smoked (cannabis) I used to nip out into the park for a quick blast if my chess match at the club was difficult because I couldn't focus or was tired. It aids concentration, but only if you can handle it. Some people, it would affect adversely.

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Optimissed wrote:

Doctors who put people on medication for anxiety probably should be shot, or at least criticised severely. They're replacing a problem that can easily be sorted with the complications of being able or unable to sort your life because the medications are interfering with your ability to understand your own problems. I hear they even put people on meds when they're bereaved, these days. They're no more than quacks. Never trust a doctor who puts people on drugs as a first resort.

It's interesting that you say that. I was watching this video one or two days ago, and Doctors Berry & Saladino talk about this issue at one point. The video's subject is about the hypothesis of an inflammation model of anxiety & depression. The video is just kind of a ramble; It's obvious they didn't plan the discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaEqoLOhOmE

 

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Optimissed who wrote, "Doctors who put people on medication for anxiety probably should be shot, or at least criticised severely. They're replacing a problem that can easily be sorted with the complications of being able or unable to sort your life because the medications are interfering with your ability to understand your own problems. I hear they even put people on meds when they're bereaved, these days. They're no more than quacks. Never trust a doctor who puts people on drugs as a first resort."

I agree with 100%! I am not certain what you mean by "quacks." I do believe, however, doctors in support of the sale of pharmaceuticals. Proscribe anti-anxiety medications to people who are not in need of them like in the hypothetical person whose dog dies. In the past, we as a people were asked as tragic as that particular life event may be to endure our pets passing away without resorting to 40mg of Prozac. Which ironically were intended to treat doggy depression.

The example of doctors early treatment ticals is too numerous to mention in this forum. Suffice to say, it is overdone!

Ciao,

Timothy Scott Puente

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Ciao. My wife, as a psychotherapist and counsellor, is particularly aware that doctors are very much helping to create a mental health problem. However, she feels it is not her place to openly criticise them. I wish she'd stop this deferential thing.

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Optimissed wrote:

Ciao. My wife, as a psychotherapist and counsellor, is particularly aware that doctors are very much helping to create a mental health problem. However, she feels it is not her place to openly criticise them. I wish she'd stop this deferential thing.

Stop being Pessimissed.

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Optimissed wrote, "Ciao. My wife, as a psychotherapist and counsellor, is particularly aware that doctors are very much helping to create a mental health problem. However, she feels it is not her place to openly criticise them. I wish she'd stop this deferential thing."

I certainly don't wish to cast aspersions involving your wife however it runs deeper than what the average person conceives. Although at times depression can be what we call reactive depression. The causes of reactive depression range from ones inability to recover from a death in the family, the loss of a limb to sleep apnea. At any rate, the medication proscribed by some time unwittingly M.D.'s can be caused by the pharmacology itself. Long term reaction to psych meds, should the patient discontinue the drug for whatever reason can leave that individual with a need for the drug whereas, it all began innocently enough. In bi-polar patient, long term use of psychotropic medication can result in the patient needing a higher and higher and some times different drug altogether.

These drugs are referred to as thought inhibitors they work by slowing synaptic activity by reducing the amount of neurotransmission in the bi-polar schizoid brain.  When the medication is discontinued the flood gates open and then exist a need for a stronger type or an increase in the dose of the same medication. Either way, the result is the cost of their treatment grows exponentially. 

Ciao,

Timothy Scott Puente

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DamonevicSmithlov wrote:

Try the all new Fukitol!

There's a solution.

Heard STD was a side effect. 

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cripes, first rick wakeman and now ELO ?