Any Successful Untitled Coaches out there?

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@OP If you are happy at part time chess teaching/ coaching, your present chess level is ok. If you are dreaming as a a professional coach, better fees, you should work hard for an NM title. NM is not an impossible dream

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bong711 wrote:

@OP If you are happy at part time chess teaching/ coaching, your present chess level is ok. If you are dreaming as a a professional coach, better fees, you should work hard for an NM title. NM is not an impossible dream

Yep...but whatever he decides...be realistic.  A few years ago this kid (1600 at the time) shows up at a tournament, and starts telling me how he wants to be a professional chess coach.  I asked him what his rating is, and he says its in the 1600's.  I said sure, you can coach at that level, as long as you explains things well.  He asked how much should be charge?  I gave him my opinion, and he says...Oh...I was  thinking of charging $100/Hour.  You can figure out the rest...

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Thank you all for your answers. Another thought I had is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the listed coaches on the site are titled. I'm thinking about applying for a coaching slot, and I wonder if Chess.com would accept me or not due to my low ratings.

 

I don't see any other reason they should not accept me... except for maybe my lack of professional coaching experience. 

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EOGuel wrote:

Thank you all for your answers. Another thought I had is the fact that the overwhelming majority of the listed coaches on the site are titled. I'm thinking about applying for a coaching slot, and I wonder if Chess.com would accept me or not due to my low ratings.

 

I don't see any other reason they should not accept me... except for maybe my lack of professional coaching experience. 

You will have to fill out the application, but i see no reason they wont accept you.  There are MANY untitled players that coach here.

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You should take some advice from this guy. He certainly knows his stuff:

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Ridicolous wrote:

You should take some advice from this guy. He certainly knows his stuff:

 

Really? Some random dude who thought he could be world champion and says to only study openings? I'm not buying it.

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He claims to be an expert...

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Serious Dunning-Kruger-Effect here...

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Ridicolous wrote:

He claims to be an expert...

Claims? I AM an expert 

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Stephen_Stanfield wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Joseph_Truelson wrote:

If you do the RAR, you will atttain your goal. Pay me for details! 

Your Daily rating is 1493...

Good point, Joseph is obviously 1493 strength.

Yeah! Good jokes!

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Joseph_Truelson wrote:
Ridicolous wrote:

He claims to be an expert...

Claims? I AM an expert 

Impressive!

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my coach named coach jay is very suscesful he has over 35,000 students and is only 2070 and his peak is 2106

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I started a group for Amateur Chess Coaches. Feel free to join if you are in the same boat as me. happy.png Please note that it is NOT going to be a competitive environment among coaches.

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Indeed.

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Pep Suárez, a Senior FIDE Trainer who coached Francisco Vallejo on his early years, once told me that the best scholastic coach he knows (and he's travelled all around the world) is a 1600 FIDE.

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EOGuel wrote:

I started a group for Amateur Chess Coaches. Feel free to join if you are in the same boat as me.  Please note that it is NOT going to be a competitive environment among coaches.

Not competitive? Then I’m not joining 

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Joseph_Truelson wrote:
EOGuel wrote:

I started a group for Amateur Chess Coaches. Feel free to join if you are in the same boat as me.  Please note that it is NOT going to be a competitive environment among coaches.

Not competitive? Then I’m not joining 

ROL! You don't even coach!

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Stephen_Stanfield wrote:
Joseph_Truelson wrote:
EOGuel wrote:

I started a group for Amateur Chess Coaches. Feel free to join if you are in the same boat as me.  Please note that it is NOT going to be a competitive environment among coaches.

Not competitive? Then I’m not joining 

ROL! You don't even coach!

RAR, and with you honing in on the NM title, we might not even consider you an "Amatuer" Coach.

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I would coach but there are a few things that will happen/might happen and I think it would probably also happen to you... 

1. coaching arguably makes your chess worse, therefore worsens your chances of becoming master. 

2. Some players may just disregard you because your a kid, and most of the times kids probably aren't that good at teaching.

3. In the end, life will catch up with you. You want to become a coach, but also study chess at the same time, it is possible but in the end probably you will become to busy to do one of them and you would have to give it up

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@chessguy1012

 

1. While I don't disagree with your argument, I've never found my coaching to make my chess worse. Even if it does take time away I could be studying, it never really hurts my chess and plus, it gives me motivation to study if my students are as well. That could be the case in the long run, not sure.

 

2. I get that point as well, though keep in mind that I turn 18 in March... so I'm not quite a kid. happy.png

 

3. That kind of was the point of this forum topic. I'm wondering if becoming a chess master does not work out if I can devote at least part-time to chess coaching. I could be wrong, though I still believe I have a few more solid years until "life catches up to me". 

 

 

I do appreciate your insights. happy.png