you move - press clock . when you write your move is up to you during the game,as long as you have an accurate record. I personally write move after pressing clock in general.
Anything to remember about going OTB ?
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mkirk wrote:
you move - press clock . when you write your move is up to you during the game,as long as you have an accurate record. I personally write move after pressing clock in general.
mkirk, I could be wrong, but I think the rules are different in the U.S. and so we should probably just stay out of it! 
mkirk wrote:
Fair point. always different across the pond!
rotflmao
You now have to move before writing your move down, they consider writing your move down first a form of taking notes. Stupid i know but what can you do.?
Aug 1, 2009
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#7
I thought you are allow to write my move and his move in your opponent's time ?
AnthonyCG wrote:
tonydal wrote:
9a) Go to Burger King with friends...play over games you just played and kibitz like crazy with each other
9b) Look at wall chart to: see who the undefeated geniuses are (if any), and if anyone is still posting nothing but goose eggs (castling queenside on the wall chart...or worse); also to find out who you're going up against for the bucks
9c) get some sleep on Saturday night (for two-day tourneys only)
Got kicked out of McDonalds for that. A sad day in America...
What, they won't let you sleep in McDonalds anymore?
Markle wrote:
You now have to move before writing your move down, they consider writing your move down first a form of taking notes. Stupid i know but what can you do.?
Wow. That is... bizarre. Well, will they at least allow you to write down times of how long it took to move ?
This all reminds me of an odd anecdote. An acquaintance of mine was playing in a local tournament. In the middle of his game, he thought of a move, and wrote it on his scoresheet. His opponent saw what he had written, and evidently decided upon a good response. My aqcuaintance was about to make the move he had written down, but noticing at the last second that it was a bad move, instead made a different move on the board and went to revise his scoresheet. Meanwhile, his opponent had quickly and without thinking played the response to the unplayed move. Since the situation on the board was not what he anticipated, what would have been a good move turned out to be a bad one, losing a piece (the queen, as I recall the story), and soon thereafter, the game.
Of course, Bur_Oak, if your acquaintance had done that today he would have been the one at fault. Is anyone aware of the penalty of writing down before moving?
Aug 2, 2009
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#15
...'posting nothing but goose eggs'...
...'castling queenside on the wall chart'...
lmpantso
If anyone cares to enforce the rule change would it be 4675
Also in fide events if not sat at the board by the appointed start time you may be defaulted.
One of my pet peeves is when an opponent writes an intended move down shielding my view with his other hand & then attempts to keeps this private by sneakily covering with a pen or cup etc, sometimes I reach forward and aside the offending object to read the pre move.
87654321 wrote:
...'posting nothing but goose eggs'...
...'castling queenside on the wall chart'...
lmpantso
If anyone cares to enforce the rule change would it be 4675
Also in fide events if not sat at the board by the appointed start time you may be defaulted.
One of my pet peeves is when an opponent writes an intended move down shielding my view with his other hand & then attempts to keeps this private by sneakily covering with a pen or cup etc, sometimes I reach forward and aside the offending object to read the pre move.
I am not sure of the Tourn. rules in England, but according to USCF rules you may have a TD called over to your game for reaching across the table and messing with someone's scoresheet while it is their turn to move. You are not allowed to distract your opponent to gain an advantage and this may be seen as doing just that.
Aug 2, 2009
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#17
Thanks Markle
'I am not sure of the Tourn. rules in England, but according to USCF rules you may have a TD called over to your game for reaching across the table and messing with someone's scoresheet while it is their turn to move. You are not allowed to distract your opponent to gain an advantage and this may be seen as doing just that.'
I believe its always best if players can sort things out and correctly apply the rules themselves rather than third party to the tournament controllers. Rules are not a secret fide / uscf laws are published and any congress revisions have to be made known at the event, typically via a wall poster. I've never known a partner refer to to the td on something like this, the opponent usually simply stops writing the pre moves. If the director was called its rather unlikely that your'e given interpretation would be applied. FIDE / ecf (English chess federation) rules state, & also I suspect the uscf that its forbidden to write moves in advance, exceptions being if seeking to make a claim for a draw via the td for repetition of position or fifty move rule.
>:)
Aug 2, 2009
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#18
FirebrandX wrote:
Estragon wrote:
The current USCF rule is that you must move first, then write it down. The ruling was that players were writing down a move, then changing their minds and making another, therefore the move written which was not made was, in effect, a "note" on the game.
To explain, suppose a player wrote down the variations he analyzed before moving. This would clearly be a violation of "making notes." But how can we say it is "making notes" to write down 2 or 3 moves not made, but not "making notes" if he only writes down the first move of a line he doesn't play?
It is hard on those who developed the Petrosian habit of writing their move down first, but as long as it is applied consistently to all players, how can anyone object?
I seem to recall USCF was "going" to adopt the rule of moving first before taking notes, but many TDs across the country rejected the idea and stated they would not honor the rule, so the rule never got enacted into the official list. Did I recall that correctly or did they go ahead and add the rule in anyway?
The USCF did adopt the rule that Estragon mentions to in order to bring American rules into conformity with FIDE. But after many TDs said they would not enforce it, as well as other strong oposition, they rescinded the rule after a few months.
Current USCF rules permit writing the move before or after making it.
I move, press clock, then write my move. This practice conforms to FIDE rules and is one of several sequences compatible with USCF rules.
I write my opponent's move after he or she moves, and before I make my own.
From time to time, as after a sequence of exchanges last Thursday night--Black's 21 to White's 23 at "More Draw Offers"--I write several moves at once after the sequence was played in a few seconds.
The only reason I am asking, is that there was a brouhahaha (haha) about a FIDE rules change concerning the proper way to note a chess move. Specifically, it appears one must move the piece first, then write it down. Granted, I am playing in the US, but I still have to wonder if the following flow of events is correct :
1) Pay fee
2) Get pairing
3) Set up clock
4) Choose a move
5) Write it down
6) Move
7) Touch clock when done
8) Wait for opponent
9) Repeat 4-8 until match is over
10) Repeat 2-4 until tourney is over
Did I miss anything ? Anything else I should take into account ?