Are you supposed to remove the piece before you take it or push it off the square as you take it?
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Jan 8, 2018
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#2
Combo of both. If there is room, I gently push off the other piece. I don’t like it when my opponent removes my piece and then hems and haws deciding which one of his pieces to replace it with. When that happens, I put my finger on the square where my piece was just in case he decides not to take it after all and “forgets” where it originally was. I believe you should touch your piece first before “removing” the opponents piece.
Jan 8, 2018
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#3
Is your opponent allowed to remove one of your pieces and then maybe decide to capture it or not and with what piece? I only do it in that case. I’ve had people pick up one of my pieces, play with it for awhile and then put it back. I’m just making sure they put it back in the same place they got it from!
Jan 8, 2018
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#4
Yes, it happens during my chess club on Thursday nights. A real bunch of rubes!
Jan 8, 2018
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#6
Or just remove the opponent's piece, nothing else, and see how he reacts. If he doesn't react, move a further piece and so on, but be sure that the game will not end in a stalemate. Don't know if this is still FIDE conform, but sometimes you have to try things in chess.
Jan 8, 2018
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#7
If you try the finger-thing in a bullet be sure to use a finger of your left hand, but only if you are not a lefty or a piano player.
Jan 8, 2018
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#8
What I really don't like are people who rise the hand to move a piece, stop and leave the hand there, over the board while thinking. If they do this regularly, I will do the same, but making sure my hand will cover a big part of the board, so he will play a kind of partial blindfold chess. FIDE rules concerning this? Don't know, do you?
Jan 8, 2018
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#9
Rarely I'll pick up the piece being captured first, but sometimes I just spontaneously do, probably most often it's because a knight is capturing, and there are a lot of pieces in between.
Otherwise I move my piece with thumb and pointer, and when it gets close to the piece being captured, I pick it up with my middle and ring finger. So it's sort of a simultaneous swap.
Rarely do I see people "push" one piece with another. It may be considered rude if the set is very nice, because it might dent or otherwise damage the piece (old wooden pieces will start to splinter at their base).
Jan 8, 2018
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#10
I know that if you touch your own piece during your turn you must move it - unless there’s no legal move for it. I’m not sure if the same rule applies to your opponents piece? If you touch it, don’t you have to capture it (unless there’s no legal move to capture it)?
Jan 8, 2018
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#11
blastforme wrote:
I know that if you touch your own piece during your turn you must move it - unless there’s no legal move for it. I’m not sure if the same rule applies to your opponents piece? If you touch it, don’t you have to capture it (unless there’s no legal move to capture it)?
Yes, in this case you have to take the piece
Jan 8, 2018
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#12
stuzzicadenti wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
blastforme wrote:
I know that if you touch your own piece during your turn you must move it - unless there’s no legal move for it. I’m not sure if the same rule applies to your opponents piece? If you touch it, don’t you have to capture it (unless there’s no legal move to capture it)?
Yes, in this case you have to take the piece
happened to me in a tournament once. I was playing black against an 8 year old kid. I had been nice to him the whole game, like allowing him to take back two moves because 1) he was about to get his queen captured and 2) he illegally tried castling through check. we were finally in an endgame where I was up a knight, and he moves his pawn but puts his pawn between two squares. I go to put the pawn on the center of the square where he meant to move it, but then he tells me that because I touched his pawn I have to take it. he calls up the TD who says the same thing and that if you want to adjust either your own your opponent's pieces it is required to say "adjust" before doing so. I take the pawn with my knight, he captures my knight with his other pawn, and I take that second pawn with my rook, effectively putting me up two pawns. I later take another of his pawns, making me three pawns up and win the game easily.
wow
once, my opponent accused me of touching his queen, which if i took with my piece would make him win in one or two moves. when someone suggested we call the TD, he said it was ok and e can continue. then he went out from the playing hall and came back with his dad, crying. the TD asked witnesses, but they didn't see if i touched it, although they heard him say it's ok. we continued the game normally and i won (i was up a lot). later the TD said the boy had already accused his opponents before of stuff like that.
sss100 wrote:
A master once told me he gets annoyed when people take their piece, and push his out of the way when taking. He prefers removing the piece first, then gently placing your piece there afterwards. Is this proper etiquette? How do you take pieces??
I remember watching a video where they explained this. I hope I remember correctly. (The video is in the YouTube channel Circulo Jose Raul Capablanca but I can't remember the title). My recollection is that they're both correct as long as you use the same hand to move your piece, take your opponent's and hit the clock. The reason "el Capa" (Pablo Argüelles) gives for preferring to move his piece first is that sometimes as you're on your way to capturing you may notice a threat at the last minute. If you've already touched your opponent's piece you must take it But, if you're moving yours, you may decide at the last minute not to take and place your piece somewhere else. If you want to avoid "pushing" your opponent's piece you can use Fischer's hook, a technique demonstrated in the same video whereby once your piece has reached the piece you'll be taking, you take with two of your fingers while placing your piece on the square with the remaining fingers.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByTuOnw5efVjakJxQVRQelFNWnRzZlduNWlGa0Uzbm5rdXFZ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByTuOnw5efVja09mV0w5NWhLM1A2YXozMkVmdHo5M3ZDN3dv/view?usp=sharing
These are the two techniques I use. 95% I use method #1, but in special circumstances #2 is appropriate. Notice how in #1, I grab the opponent's pawn while moving my pawn simultaneously.
I pick up the eliminated piece with my left hand, and place the piece I am moving with my right hand.
you can only use one hand
Jan 8, 2018
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#18
adumbrate wrote:
you can only use one hand
so i'm following the rules!
(I haven’t played in a tournament. Maybe it’s time to practice picking up the piece with one side of my hand and dropping the piece with the other side.)
Jan 9, 2018
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stuzzicadenti wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
blastforme wrote:
I know that if you touch your own piece during your turn you must move it - unless there’s no legal move for it. I’m not sure if the same rule applies to your opponents piece? If you touch it, don’t you have to capture it (unless there’s no legal move to capture it)?
Yes, in this case you have to take the piece
happened to me in a tournament once. I was playing black against an 8 year old kid. I had been nice to him the whole game, like allowing him to take back two moves because 1) he was about to get his queen captured and 2) he illegally tried castling through check. we were finally in an endgame where I was up a knight, and he moves his pawn but puts his pawn between two squares. I go to put the pawn on the center of the square where he meant to move it, but then he tells me that because I touched his pawn I have to take it. he calls up the TD who says the same thing and that if you want to adjust either your own your opponent's pieces it is required to say "adjust" before doing so. I take the pawn with my knight, he captures my knight with his other pawn, and I take that second pawn with my rook, effectively putting me up two pawns. I later take another of his pawns, making me three pawns up and win the game easily.
Ups! Yes, we have always to say j'adoube (or, as you said, adjust) before touching a piece which we wan't to move or to take. Btw, I would not allow anybody to take back, even a 1 year boy. If you want to help him you take your time to analyse the game with him, if he wish. If you are playing for fun you can play handicap games, given your opponent a rook or a queen. Or you can offer him to turn the board when you have a winning position. And turn again if he is losing again, and so on. But no take-backs!
A master once told me he gets annoyed when people take their piece, and push his out of the way when taking. He prefers removing the piece first, then gently placing your piece there afterwards. Is this proper etiquette? How do you take pieces??