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YeOldeWildman

@kco:  It does seem to matter to a lot of people.  I agree the rules of the game don't change and the person on the losing end of a crush has the *RIGHT* to take 3 days/per move (or whatever), but that doesn't make it *COURTEOUS* to do so.  Neither is it courteous to ask one's opponent to resign or to move faster.

@alexlaw:  I always bring a book to tournament games just in case I run into that problem.  Fortunately, I've never had to pull it out...

kco

un oh same old thing again, oh well good bye. 

cferrel

Its rude to ask them to resign. Just beat them and quit crying. Even if im losing I shoot for the draw unless mate is obvious and then I resign. 

winerkleiner

Maybe just a kind message asking if the game could still be won, could lessen the blow. 

ChazR

What do you waste when you waste time?  You waste life.  Stupid people play out lost games to the very last move when their opponent has already demostrated superiority...they are just wasting their time, hoping for a 2% chance of a draw...but they annoy any adult who wants to go on the next game.

YeOldeWildman

Sad that suggesting people simply be nice to each other has become "the same old thing again..."

winerkleiner
YeOldeWildman wrote:

Sad that suggesting people simply be nice to each other has become "the same old thing again..."

Sorry then be rude and rip them a new one.  Would that make the situation any better?     

cferrel

Draws are not a 2% chance lol. I have drawn games 8% of my chessbase online games and some positons were completely lost like I played a 2000+ player and drew because he moved the wrong piece. 

1pawndown

Does anyone actually resign when asked too? If not, why ask? 

Conquistador

Yawn.

Here is some chess etiquette for people new to chess.com:

1.  Resigning is arrogance.

2.  Not resigning on time is arrogance.

3.  Bishop is better than the knight.

4.  Knight is better than the bishop.

5.  chess.com is a dating site.

6.  When refering to chess.com, type chepp.com instead.

7.  There is a best opening.

8.  There is no a best opening.

9.  1.e4 is better than 1.d4

10. 1.d4 is better than 1.e4

That should give you a good start to the forums. 

bonzo77

It can be frustrating but one should never ask for a resignation. It's even good to work on a game that's easily in your favor. I can sense my opponents level though over a course of a game and if it's not even a thinker left It's common sense to resign if I'm down. It's no gratification to me to screw someone over and drag out a game. but sometimes if down a little it may not be as clear cut and dry so play on. Just enjoy the game and have fun.

YeOldeWildman

If it's not clear cut you should definitely play on.  OTOH, if you're down a rook+ with no counterplay against an opponent who is 500 rating points higher, the polite thing is to not waste your opponent's time.  Which is why I believe the courteous thing to do is to either resign or play fast -- whichever you prefer.  The thing that seems to really annoy the heck out of others is the folks who make about 1 move/day/game until they're losing/lost and then start taking the maximum amount of time.  That I contend is just as rude as asking someone to resign or play fast for one's own convenience.

Helzeth

winning a completely won position isnt fun.

drawing a completely won position is terrible

losing a completely won position horrifying.

jmose1
Helzeth wrote:

winning a completely won position isnt fun.

drawing a completely won position is terrible

losing a completely won position horrifying.

true but it could have been plannedSmile

jmose1
Akuni wrote:

Frankly, I think both you and your opponents who asked you to resign were being rude.

 

It's unreasonable to demand a resignation.

 

But I think its even worse to continue to play on when you have no conceivable chance of even drawing.

 

I think a fair compromise is, if you wish to ask someone to resign you should also post irrefutable analysis that leads to mate, a pawn promotion or some other unlosable position.

I agree

bonzo77

Also learning players may not no the etiquette or are just naive about it. If you have a winning position you will eventually win, but I know the frustration when someone is being a jerk about it. I think someone mentioned above that their opponent may eventually have a computer problem. Whatever floats your boat. if that's how you want to win cool. most of our settings are probably on end the game on time, because usually there is a player bucking the system on the list of games. but it's just impossible to make a rule on this and it is what it is. 

bonzo77

If I had a dime everytime this topic has been brought up I'd be dating a dimepiece.

winerkleiner

Ok I'll ask, what's a massa?

winerkleiner

chrisr2212 it that someone who messed up?

NajdorfDefense

It is bad etiquette to ask someone to resign, it is worse etiquette to play on in a dead-loss position. {similarly for a dead-drawn position when opponent offers a draw}

I was involved in a dead-drawn endgame, my opponent refused to agree to a draw because he thought he could queen his extra rook pawn, which was impossible as he couldn't get my king out of the corner.

Given the time constraints of needing to eat dinner between games at large tournaments, it was classless for my opponent to sit there and keep the game going for another hour when he had no moves.

IM Saidy even came over and patiently explained to White that black's King could move H8-G7-H8 and White could never advance. White still took another 57 mins before agreeing -- just to spite me for correctly proclaiming the position a dead-draw, never attempting any moves the whole hour.