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What is the point at which you are no longer a chess muppet. You could still lose to better players, but so will everyone.
Is it 800, 1200, 1500, 2000?
It is 200 points higher than whatever your rating is now.
No matter how good you get, there will always be people who can wipe the floor with you.
/ You are rated 1199 in blitz. Wouldn't you say that anyone rated below 1000 is a muppet?
Recently I played a serious tournament (team's national league) mostly against 2000+ oposition, being 1900+ myself. One opponent hung a knight for no reason, one dropped a rook to a 2-move tactics in a completely won 4 rook endgame, one traded down into a clearly drawn minor piece endgame instead of a won queen endgame (admittedly the game was messy and the opponent had every right to be tired). I hung a pawn twice because of missing a simple pin, still winning one of those games. One 2150 Elo player restored my faith in chess in the last round, punishing me for passive play with a double rook sacrifice leading to checkmate. Apparently we're all muppets.
In over-the-board games, a player rated 1200 or higher generally has a strong understanding basic principles, tactics, and strategies.
A player rated 1000 is on the verge and I personally consider such a person a good player.
When i was a kid, i felt awesome, just to be 1200.
The way I thought of it, I could walk into a McDonalds or whatever, chances were, there would be nobody there that could beat me! I was already better than most people would ever be!!
Is 1200 really that high?
Not here. Because complete beginners start at 1200, a 1200 rating means nothing here.
When I started with the USCF, a rating was marked as provisional until 24 games had been completed.
I've always thought expert level is the rating where you can say to yourself that you can play a pretty good game of chess. Below that there are plenty of players that can play good chess, but it's not as consistent as someone rated 2000+ fide.
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I know unrated good players. The second lowest Fiderated that I know is 1181 and he is absolutely not bad. Its one of the dads in my club that started competing when driving his kids to chess. I can see that he improves each year and he had a good result (8) in class 5 in the Norwegian championship.
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I'd say about 2250 or 2300. Anybody below that rating is bad enough to have a chance to lose to me OTB, and if you've ever seen me play chess, you'd know that's pretty bad!
DP, you're a USCF Expert! I'd say 1500 ELO, and you're no longer a *bad* player.
I'll always feel a chess muppet even in the (very improbable) case I would succeed to be 2300 since I'll always find players much better than me
If you don't use an engine or disconnect or go on vacation just cuz you're losing. Basically if you show your opponent and the game of chess respect it doesn't matter if you're rated 200 you're still a good player.