banned members rejoining ...?

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ghostmirror

I recently posted the  material below on the suggestions / feedback forum but, strangely, I think, it brought no comment from the site admin. or even from members.

Therefore I'm hanging it here.

 

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Original post

During a game this morning a player, "M******_M****" [name withheld til facts established], introduced themselves as "Hi...I'm the player known as 'unstoppable', my previous account got banned."

Why someone would make such a revelation is beyond me, as is the factuality of the statement...but if true, does this mean that banned players are allowed to rejoin at some point, or that they may be successful at establishing accounts in other ways ?

I'm not a fuddy-duddy but I suspect that a banned member was likely banned for a justifiable & nefarious reason, e.g., cheating or some anti-social behaviour.

I tried to find the way to contact the site admin. more directly but didn't see it so here ya go. I think this is a subject worth general awareness.

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As mentioned, it seems odd that someone would reveal this abt themselves but even more odd [great pun potential there, eh ?] that the idea that a banned member would be so casually able to rejoin under pseudonym garners no interest.

What say ye ?

Martin_Stahl

How can you stop someone that was banned from rejoining? For almost every way you can think of to stop a banned user, there is a way to get around the stop.

The only easy way would be if you had to have a verified identity to start an account, with something like a goverment issued ID, and even that could potentially be circumvented, even if unlikely due to cost vs benefit of doing it.

Not sure why someone that had been banned would tell you that, unless you had played with them on the other account before.

Matthew11

Ha ha ha, yeah a government issued ID to start an account. Seriously though, I think chess.com's computers are good at catching cheaters, so, if they come back and cheat again, they'll get banned again.

Martin_Stahl
Matthew11 wrote:

Ha ha ha, yeah a government issued ID to start an account. .

I wasn't advocating that, just pointing out that about the only way to do something like that would be via some sort of identity verification; like the site does with titled players.

Would certainly put a crimper in the number of people willing to sign up to the site though.

kco
echecs06 wrote:

What if they don't cheat again? Does everyone deserve a second chance?


 doesn't prawneatsprawn deserve a second chance ? Wink

ghostmirror
Martin_Stahl wrote:

How can you stop someone that was banned from rejoining? For almost every way you can think of to stop a banned user, there is a way to get around the stop.

The only easy way would be if you had to have a verified identity to start an account, with something like a goverment issued ID, and even that could potentially be circumvented, even if unlikely due to cost vs benefit of doing it.

Not sure why someone that had been banned would tell you that, unless you had played with them on the other account before.


I cant answer all the questions abt this, esp the weirdness of why someone would reveal that info abt themselves during the chat of a game, BUT the reason that it seems relevant to me is that someone must have done something fairly troublesome to get banned...like cheating or other severely anti-social stuff. I'm really not tryna make life difficult for anyone but that bothers me &,to be honest, I find it as troubling that no admin has commented on this.

 

As far as verifying IDs, I think theres an easy way for that: to join you have to receive an e-mail, right? The email address would be the way to track ppl.

ivandh

I can create dozens of e-mail accounts for free.

Martin_Stahl
ivandh wrote:

I can create dozens of e-mail accounts for free.

And I have 5 or 6 I use daily for different things (work, specific websites, etc). e-mail addresses are one of the easiest things to change for a person.

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1pawndown

I think cheaters routinely rejoin and cheat again. If you check the caught cheating lists, many of the screen names are remarkably similar to others. I don't think they try very hard to camoflogue their returns, but blatantly announcing it is a novel display of gall. 

ivandh
1pawndown wrote:

I think cheaters routinely rejoin and cheat again. If you check the caught cheating lists, many of the screen names are remarkably similar to others. I don't think they try very hard to camoflogue their returns, but blatantly announcing it is a novel display of gall. 


 Or stupidity.

RetGuvvie98
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