Beginner Question Regarding Chess Rating

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Spencer_Marquiss
Hello! I've always been very confused about the chess.com rating. I always heard ppl start at 400-600 or even 1000 yet chess.com starts us at 0 and It is +9 for wins and -8 for loses, correct? in order to reach level 1000 one would have to win at an extraordinary ratio over 100 games (like ) OR play thousands and thousands of games and win around 60/40.
Chess_Player_lol

when you first make an account you can gain/lose a lot of rating at first. but yes once you start playing a lot you will be gaining/losing 8 points each game. so you will have to play a lot if you want to gain 100s of points.

Spencer_Marquiss

Thx for responding.

Spencer_Marquiss

I sent that too quick. Ok so you're a 2300+ (damn) with a w/l % of 48% w 44% l

Spencer_Marquiss

And I'm sub 600 but won 49% w lost 45% . Very similar. My question is does Chess.com rate my games and sees me as a beginner. Like if you started a fresh account. Would it shoot you up to 2000+ bc your skill level or is it really a grind game

Chess_Player_lol

no if you restarted at 2000, you would likely lose all of your games and end up at the same elo because there is a skill difference between each elo; your winrate does not indicate skill level.

@its_lexii has a very similar winrate and is 1600. however when I play against her I have a record of 80.5-1.5 against her.

https://www.chess.com/games/archive?gameOwner=my_game&gameType=recent&opponent=its_lexii&timeSort=desc

Chess_Player_lol

also sorry to my friend for throwing her under the bus with these stats lol

Spencer_Marquiss

Ok that makes a lot of sense. Lol poor lexi.

Spencer_Marquiss

So. Is there any difference between FIDE and chess.com. I guess I was confused bc many sources state a 600 is a true beginner but as a 600 now I would crush true beginners or even myself 4 months ago. Some sites state you get a beginning rating of 1000 which is the part that's throwing me. I have to get a lot better to reach 1000 on chess.com

HeckinSprout

FIDE rating isn't quite equivalent to chess.com elo. I've heard that someone 2000+ elo here might have a FIDE rating of 1500-1750 OTB (over the board). Different sites start you off differently. I created a new account on lichess and it started me at 1500. But that doesn't mean that's a beginner rating. The first dozen or so games, you lose/gain huge amounts of points per game until the system figures out your actual rating - similar to chess.com

Also, a true beginner on this site will have a rating much lower than 600. I've never been that low myself. But I've seen enough GMs do ratings climbs videos to know that plenty of people are under 500.