Bishop or Knight?

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Calamity_Destroyer

well 2 bishops beat a rook, but 2 knights lose to a rook

Oliver_Prescott
Calamity_Destroyer wrote:

well 2 bishops beat a rook, but 2 knights lose to a rook

2 knights still relatively equal to a rook

Calamity_Destroyer

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo as long as no forks rook wins

 

Oliver_Prescott

first of all, what is ur context, just a king and rook vs 2 knights and a king?

Oliver_Prescott

then it should be draw if white defends mate and doesnt get forked or skewered

Snowpeltt

knights, since they can fork easier and that...

1b61-O

knights because in knight bishop engeames i get crushed byknight

homelessKramnik

They're equally good with very different strengths. Bishops obviously better in pairs since you control each color complex, knights better in closed positions. Generally speaking the question of knight vs bishop really comes down to who can create a position that is more beneficial to their minor piece of choice. I like setting up endings where my knights dominate bishops because so many people will instantly trade a knight for a bishop in fast games without really considering if it's a good idea. Knights also tend to combine better with your heavy pieces (queens and rooks) since their sphere of square control is so different.

Oliver_Prescott

knights r tricky and fun to play with tho, but bishops are objectively better

aMazeMove

yeah

IHaveTHEChessSkill

in bughouse knights r better

ducklife6

i like nights because you can fork yum yum tongue.png

HerakIes
ducklife6 wrote:

i like nights because you can fork yum yum

you can fork yum yum at any time of the day, not only at night

ducklife6

bruh I meant knight 

EnergeticHay
Oliver_Prescott wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
Oliver_Prescott wrote:

i think bishop should be 3.5

any reason why? or just from experience

cuz bobby fischer said so

well bobby fischer isn't always right tongue.png

EnergeticHay
Oliver_Prescott wrote:

knights r tricky and fun to play with tho, but bishops are objectively better

kinda agree

1c6O-1

knights, more tricky

SirikitS

1) Bishops. 2) That policeman joke is hilarious grin.png thx for it!

leapingfireman520
EnergeticHay wrote:
Roger436 wrote:

Bishops are better! You can mate with two bishops, but you can't mate with two knights.

good point. 

actually u can iv done it before 

DanCruzNYC

I think it partly depends on the opening you play. If you play the dragon or similar structures then your dark square bishop is worth almost a rook to you in some cases. How often does black avoid taking a rook on a1 in those positions? However if you are playing in a Shveshnikov Sicilian then then trading that dark square bishop for the knight defending d5 makes a lot of sense. So a lot of our biases may come from our own opening repertoire.