Bishop v. Knight

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FifthDimension

Which piece is better...and why?

I prefer the knight even though two knights can't mate...I like it for it's forks Smile

FifthDimension

FifthDimension

Actually it's black to move...white to move is impossible =P

RoboFreak

I think bishops are best to keep. on endgames I rely on theyr strenght.

FifthDimension

Yes ... When a bishop is in the fienchetto position it is very strong.

FifthDimension

good point...

Crudus

It depends on the position. In a very closed position (even in the edgame) knights are better. In an open position (even in midgame) bishops are better. It is up to you to manipulate the position to your strengths(rather, your pieces).

Phil_A_S

Guys this is a recurring topic, do a forum search. You will find that these threads lead to no good. Just flamewars and breakfast items. I prefer breakfast items, so I have posted a plea for threadjacking in the RSS ( Royal Spam Society, a society dedicated to killing this type of thread and having some fun without the intervention of block-crazy people). I did this for you guys because these threads as i have said turn out to be flamewars.

FifthDimension

Yes obviously it must have previously happened somewhere...

Phil_A_S
FifthDimension wrote:

Yes obviously it must have previously happened somewhere...


 Sorry, what did you mean?

Jinu18

hey dears this is first forum topic im reading and surprised by this nonsense, actually this scenario is impossible na

FifthDimension

lol you like the diagram?

Calveron98

I like bishops for endgames that take place on all sides of the board.  They are also great attacking tools.

dschaef2

Really, another one of these threads?  Each one is better than the other in different positions.

 

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orangehonda

orangehonda

The Evaluation of Material Imbalances

by GM Larry Kaufman (click for link)


The method of attacking this problem was to start with a large database of about 925,000 games, then to select out of only those games where both players were listed as having FIDE ratings of at least 2300 (the standard for the FIDE Master title), so that my conclu/sions would be based on the play of reasonably strong players. That still left me with nearly 300,000 games. Using the "ChessBase" program (other database programs also have the needed capability), I would select the games with various specified material imbalances and with specified pieces being present or absent. Then I would record the average difference between performance rating and player rating, rather than using the raw scoring percentage, as that might be biased if stronger players tended to have one side of the imbalance.

OK, what did I discover? Let's start with the age-old question of bishop vs. knight. The conclusions are clear and consistent: . . . an unpaired bishop and knight are of equal value (within 1/50 of a pawn, statistically meaningless), so positional considerations (such as open or closed position, good or bad bishop, etc.) will decide which piece is better.

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