This rule is quite confusing... Fide follows this but chess. Com doesn't and another site does follow the rule... Maybe firouzja was confused as he plays most of the time online
Online Chess and Real Chess Rules are different ?! Seriously??
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Jul 6, 2020
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Yeah but see the position which I mentioned at last, its a dead draw.
Jul 6, 2020
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#5
But if there is no mate possible then it is not a loss for the side who got flagged, no one said like that
Jul 6, 2020
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VijaySrini wrote:
But if there is no mate possible then it is not a loss for the side who got flagged, no one said like that
The FIDE rule is like if one runs out of time but his opponent can never checkmate him, its a draw.
Jul 6, 2020
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#10
Yeah , today I just thought , thought and thought , that what happens when such things happen and so decided to create a thread. I make forums only for Discussing Chess.
Jul 6, 2020
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VijaySrini wrote:
This rule is quite confusing... Fide follows this but chess. Com doesn't and another site does follow the rule... Maybe firouzja was confused as he plays most of the time online
wait fide which online what?
im confused does fide follown the law that if no checkmate is possible then itds draw?
Jul 6, 2020
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#14
its happened to me in chess.om too
once i had like 5 sec and winning and opponent was losing but not until like 30 moves so sacrificed all my pieces and made it a draw it was crazy to believe i di that but i had to ill search for link.
Jul 6, 2020
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#16
Yes, but thats the thing that chess.com should also follow FIDE rules, First of all, we lose 0.1 seconds after everymoves even WHEN WE PREMOVE. And so thats one of the biggest disadvantages.
Jul 6, 2020
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rishabh11great wrote:
Hey there, we see that there was a huge Controversy in the game between Carlsen and Alireza, Alireza was three pawns up and had a completely winning position but sadly he ran out of time. Carlsen only had a bishop and so Alireza claimed that it should be a draw, however but Alexander Grishchuk said that a mate is possible if Alireza helps him by promoting to a knight and taking his king to the corner.
But my question is the if there is a position where mate is NOT POSSIBLE even if one side helps the other and runs out of time, it should be a draw. But still White is considered as winner, why is it like that? SEE THE POSITION BELOW :
There should be a new rule that such positions where checkmate is never possible even if 1 side helps should be considered a draw if 1 side runs out of time.
The position you mentioned, it is indeed a draw as per the fide rules.
Jul 6, 2020
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#19
Yes, so even if 1 side runs out of time its still a draw according to FIDE rules. But in online chess, its a win for the opponent of the persnon who runs out of time. And this is what I am saying?
rishabh11great wrote:
Hey there, we see that there was a huge Controversy in the game between Carlsen and Alireza, Alireza was three pawns up and had a completely winning position but sadly he ran out of time. Carlsen only had a bishop and so Alireza claimed that it should be a draw, however but Alexander Grishchuk said that a mate is possible if Alireza helps him by promoting to a knight and taking his king to the corner.
But my question is the if there is a position where mate is NOT POSSIBLE even if one side helps the other and runs out of time, it should be a draw. But still White is considered as winner, why is it like that? SEE THE POSITION BELOW :
There should be a new rule that such positions where checkmate is never possible even if 1 side helps should be considered a draw if 1 side runs out of time.
Actually it is possible for either side to win on time, upon a condition. Let me show you...
Something like this could arise. I'm pretty sure it's a win on time for either side in this instance if the flag of one of the players falls.
I presume your post was intended to not include this possibility. In that case, it would be a draw as per the FIDE rules of inability to launch a checkmate in any possible combination.
Maybe this position would fit your description better (for your reference).
Hey there, we see that there was a huge Controversy in the game between Carlsen and Alireza, Alireza was three pawns up and had a completely winning position but sadly he ran out of time. Carlsen only had a bishop and so Alireza claimed that it should be a draw, however but Alexander Grishchuk said that a mate is possible if Alireza helps him by promoting to a knight and taking his king to the corner.
But my question is the if there is a position where mate is NOT POSSIBLE even if one side helps the other and runs out of time, it should be a draw. But still White is considered as winner, why is it like that? SEE THE POSITION BELOW :
There should be a new rule that such positions where checkmate is never possible even if 1 side helps should be considered a draw if 1 side runs out of time.