Max-is wrote:
PLEASE donn't revive this discussion.
How could I miss the party?
blitz/bullet rating is the only thing that matters in internet chess
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Good riddance.
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I becoming to disgusted with correspondence chess game, data base games, opening referrence, moving pieces and cheating. At my other chess site I am rating 2283 and climbing, I know in my heart I am not otb 2283; I would prefer 2283 blitz rating. At chesssmaniac.com I know a player who is rating coreespondence 2450 and his otb rating 1500 uscf, I was looking at 2600 online rating and he doesn't even play 1800 elo level. I am done with correspondence play and going with blitz only, I have a few more games here and I never played correspondence game again.
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It sure is discouraging to see people cheat to get better ratings. But in the end, they are only cheating themselves.
I think correspondence is cheating period. I don't want my opponents using any assistance when I play them and as I understand it you're allowed to use opening references and other tools to assist you in correspondence chess and the idea of taking weeks or months to play one game is frankly a joke. When I play chess it's going to be me vs you with x time on the clock and may the least stupid person win lol.
i think its even allowed to use engines now in online chess. I am not sure though. I don't tho..
Blitz games, for all its short-term thinking problems, does solve most of the computer cheating and disconnecting problems that plague the longer time controls on the internet. Especially at 3 minutes per game - if you're 1200+, it's just long enough to get a quick think without going nuts, and too fast for computer users.
Jun 10, 2015
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I would imagine there are far more cheaters in Blitz and Bullet. Online chess requires a lot of patience which puts of plenty of cheaters. Obviously there are plenty of them still, but the idea people can't cheat at Blitz or Bullet is rather naive. I've never had an engine myself so I don't know how fast they can calculate live, but given the speed computersmove when you play against them I assume and engine could easily spew out moves fast enough for a Blitz game.
It is impossible to cheat in one minute (bullet game), that would mean moving the mouse and looking a your chess program; can be possible but I doubt it. Unfortunately, it is too fast for me and bring down the quality of the play. Blitz is best alternative 3-5 minute game, you still can have quality chess game. Another good reason to get good at blitz is a tournament can be decided on a couple blitz games.
I would still probably play Fischer ramdon 960 game, at least there no opening manuel or opening reference a player can refer to and no data base games. Have you ever had the experience, you have totally won game and your opponent refuse to resign in correspondence game, it can take a year to win that game, what I mean being a queen up and your opponent does not resign. I had a correspondence game my opponent refuse to resign and went over year and when I did finally win I gain no rating point because I was higher rated than him.
bb_gum234 wrote:
Nope.
You can have a program move for you. You can have it play fast enough to make 100 moves in just 1 or 2 seconds off the clock.
That sucks! I don't understand why any player will cheat, how can a cheater take pride in their win.
The sad truth is if somebody wants to cheat they will. Time control does not matter. That's why I don't care about any online ratings. Between that and lag or connection issues, online ratings are not accurate. IMO.
It doesn't matter
Jun 10, 2015
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Blitz and bullet are the safest time controls to play if you want to avoid cheats. While it's entirely possible to cheat in blitz or bullet, it's much harder to get away with it for a number of reasons.
That's one good reason the best players in the world play blitz and bullet all the time (Naka and Caruana have played 100's of thousands of blitz and bullet games on various accounts online), but very few correspondence games.
SmyslovFan wrote:
Blitz and bullet are the safest time controls to play if you want to avoid cheats. While it's entirely possible to cheat in blitz or bullet, it's much harder to get away with it for a number of reasons.
That's one good reason the best players in the world play blitz and bullet all the time (Naka and Caruana have played 100's of thousands of blitz and bullet games on various accounts online), but very few correspondence games.
I know a 2600+ GM that quit the 5 min pool on ICC because he said its full of cheats , so it occurs more than you might think at faster time controls too .
PLEASE donn't revive this discussion. The only good thing that came out of it was getting Canadian)Expert banned... i'm still smarting from his insults