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Muisuitglijder

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video, i thought it would be a nice idea to create a thread involving arbiter cases. Preferably shown in videos.

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 2:10. I set the time stamp a little earlier. Check it out.

notmtwain
Spelenderwijs wrote:

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video, i thought it would be a nice idea to create a thread involving arbiter cases. Preferably shown in videos.

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 1:50. I set the time stamp a few seconds earlier. Check it out.

 

But there is nothing to see here. Naja accidentally knocked over his rook and put it back in less than a second.

Don't waste any time on this one. There is nothing to see.

Muisuitglijder
notmtwain schreef:
Spelenderwijs wrote:

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video, i thought it would be a nice idea to create a thread involving arbiter cases. Preferably shown in videos.

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 1:50. I set the time stamp a few seconds earlier. Check it out.

 

But there is nothing to see here. Naja accidentally knocked over his rook and put it back in less than a second.

Don't waste any time on this one. There is nothing to see.

Nothing to see? How long did you even watch after Naka knocked over his rook and put it back? And what kind of a d*ck are you anyway telling people not to waste time on this? If you dont want to waste time on this, fine. Go visit some other thread. And it is always you who reacts the first whenever i start a thread. Are you following me around or what?

notmtwain
Spelenderwijs wrote:
notmtwain schreef:
Spelenderwijs wrote:

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video, i thought it would be a nice idea to create a thread involving arbiter cases. Preferably shown in videos.

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 1:50. I set the time stamp a few seconds earlier. Check it out.

 

But there is nothing to see here. Naja accidentally knocked over his rook and put it back in less than a second.

Don't waste any time on this one. There is nothing to see.

Nothing to see? How long did you even watch after Naka knocked over his rook and put it back? And what kind of a d*ck are you anyway telling people not to waste time on this? If you dont want to waste time on this, fine. Go visit some other thread. And it is always you who reacts the first whenever i start a thread. Are you following me around or what?

I wasted several minutes watching before I searched for more info and used the link to watch it on YouTube and saw all the comments explaining that the rook being knocked over was the whole issue. You could have explained that up front. Nobody thought there was any basis for a claim.

I don't follow you. I am just pretty active looking for unanswered posts.

Muisuitglijder
Spelenderwijs schreef:

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video...

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 2:10. I set the time stamp a little earlier. Check it out.

 

I could've explained it up front?? If you read the above, what else is there to explain up front, really? 

Strangemover

Need to call an arbiter to resolve this dispute? 

SnoemanKing

Doesn't this forum have mods?

Muisuitglijder
Strangemover schreef:

Need to call an arbiter to resolve this dispute? 

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Jenium

Wow, that was really lame by White.

BonTheCat

If anything, Zhigalko should have been given a warning by the arbiter. Accidentally knocking over pieces is not subject to a penalty, but setting them right should be done on your own time. If Zhigalko thought that Nakamura wasted time on Zhigalko's clock setting the rook right again (a totally ludicrous claim by the way - Nakamura presses the clock and on the way back knocks over the rook, and immediately sets it upright, the incident is all over in a couple of tenths of a second), just pressing the clock back would, as far as I know, (still) be the correct procedure on Zhigalko's part here.

Muisuitglijder
Jenium schreef:

Wow, that was really lame by White.

Exactly my thoughts when i first watched it. Naka showed him good though happy.png

autobunny
notmtwain wrote:
Spelenderwijs wrote:

After witnessing a pathetic action by grandmaster Sergei Zhigalko in his game against Hikaru Nakamura from the World Rapid 2019, shown in the following video, i thought it would be a nice idea to create a thread involving arbiter cases. Preferably shown in videos.

Anyway, in the following video, the moment the arbiter is called happens at 1:50. I set the time stamp a few seconds earlier. Check it out.

 

But there is nothing to see here. Naja accidentally knocked over his rook and put it back in less than a second.

Don't waste any time on this one. There is nothing to see.

The bunny thinks everyone else missed the sparks flying when zhigalko looks up dotingly at the arbiter.  The poor boy just wanted some love and attention.  This could have been a beautiful love story but you folks had to ruin it all focussing on a mere fallen rook. 

Dr. Zhigalko.  The bunny reserves all rights. 

Optimissed

It was obvious that replacing the rook should strictly have been done in his own time but this was blitz chess and the clock had already been pressed. The mental and then physical process of pressing the opponent's clock which is on the other side of the board to reset the clock and then the piece would not be obvious and I believe would not be necessary since it would actually take more time to achieve than what happened on the board.

It is therefore my impression that the person who called the arbiter was wrong to do so because he was trying to unsettle his opponent.  Obvious gamesmanship. However, once the arbiter has been called then he has to make a judgement. In my opinion, the player who called the arbiter should have been given a formal warning for gamesmanship. I have no idea if there is any provision for this ridiculous state of affairs in the rules of bullet chess but in normal chess a player who made such a complaint to an arbiter would be viewed as someone to laugh at .... obviously resorting to gamesmanship.

autobunny

Please stay on topic.  We were discussing Dr. Zhigalko.   Thinking of casting Redmayne as the protagonist. 

Optimissed

ah

 

autobunny

Thank you.  Wallace Shawn as the arbiter perhaps? 

Optimissed

Could be.

Optimissed

He's a cheat, maybe. It looks like gamesmanship.

autobunny
CruiseShip wrote:

why did zhigalko wait till he was 3 min on time? I couldnt hear the arbiters voice clearly.

dax00

7.3   If a player displaces one or more pieces, he shall re-establish the correct position on his own time. If necessary, either the player or his opponent shall stop the clocks and ask for the arbiter’s assistance. The arbiter may penalise the player who displaced the pieces.

It doesn't matter how much time was wasted. Zhigalko was perfectly correct in requesting the arbiter.