Can astrology really help your chess?

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Inverted
tomjoad wrote:
Inverted wrote:

Anyone who can believe we evolved from monkeys has already stooped as embarrassingly low as they can get.


LOL. You mean this as a joke, right?


 LOL. You mean this as a joke, right??

Inverted
padman wrote:

Even if you were a creationist you should realize that your antagonists argue that humans evolved from some type of ape. They would never say that humans evolved from monkeys. If you can point out the scientists who do claim this it would be highly interesting. If you can find anybody in the general population who claims that it would be also highly interesting.


 Point?

TheGrobe

Nice thread hijack.

Go peddle your antagonistic ignorance somewhere else please.

LordJones3rd
Inverted wrote:
tomjoad wrote:
Inverted wrote:

Anyone who can believe we evolved from monkeys has already stooped as embarrassingly low as they can get.


LOL. You mean this as a joke, right?


 LOL. You mean this as a joke, right??


 When I hover over your rating it shows over 2,000.  Your intellect must be above average so something rather profound must have happened in your formative years that has led you to carry these misconceptions unquestioned into adulthood without the dialectical analysis that your intellect would surely warrant.

LordJones3rd
LordJones3rd wrote:
Inverted wrote:
tomjoad wrote:
Inverted wrote:

Anyone who can believe we evolved from monkeys has already stooped as embarrassingly low as they can get.


LOL. You mean this as a joke, right?


 LOL. You mean this as a joke, right??


 When I hover over your rating it shows over 2,000.  Your intellect must be above average so something rather profound must have happened in your formative years that has led you to carry these misconceptions unquestioned into adulthood without the dialectical analysis that your intellect would surely warrant.


Furthermore I'll wager that you were indoctrinated at a very early age before your critical faculties were sufficiently developed to construct a reasoned counter-view.

My guess would be that you were taken (by your parents) to attend fundamentalist evangelical type gatherings from about the age of 3 years.

I'm sorry my friend you never stood a chance.

bigpoison
padman wrote:

Even if you were a creationist you should realize that your antagonists argue that humans evolved from some type of ape. They would never say that humans evolved from monkeys. If you can point out the scientists who do claim this it would be highly interesting. If you can find anybody in the general population who claims that it would be also highly interesting.


Not really.  All mammals share a common ancestor, as does all life.  It is very common to hear "mystics" convolute the origin of species into, "you're saying humans evolved from monkeys."  By saying, "some type of ape" you're treading a similar path.

They don't need any help.

TheGrobe
bigpoison wrote:
padman wrote:

Even if you were a creationist you should realize that your antagonists argue that humans evolved from some type of ape. They would never say that humans evolved from monkeys. If you can point out the scientists who do claim this it would be highly interesting. If you can find anybody in the general population who claims that it would be also highly interesting.


Not really.  All mammals share a common ancestor, as does all life.  It is very common to hear "mystics" convolute the origin of species into, "you're saying humans evolved from monkeys."  By saying, "some type of ape" you're treading a similar path.

They don't need any help.


Wait -- you mean to say that apes evolved from Adam?

Writch
Inverted wrote:

Well more than the non-existent 'proof' you've posted here.

We share over half our DNA with cabbages, that doesn't make us half cabbage does it ??

Ok  lets take this idea of similarities to determine which animal is most like us.. Considering the number of human chromosomes is (46).. two of our closest ancestors would be the tobacco plant (48) and the bat (44). Furthermore, because the chromosomes in living matter are one of the most complex bits of matter in the known universe, it would seem logical to assume that organisms with the least number of chromosomes are the end result of millions of years of evolution experimenting to increase complexity in living organisms. Therefore, this would reveal that we started from penicillium with only 2 chromosomes, and slowly evolved into fruit flies (8), and after many more millions of years we became tomatoes (12), and so on, until we reached the human stage of 46 chromosomes. Millions of years from now, if we're fortunate, we may become the ultimate life form, a fern, with a total of 480 chromosomes...

O and Ive seen plenty of apes, I know many humans, but where are all the ape-men at ?!?!?!
When you meet your non-existent 'missing-link', let me know......


This is so scientifically wrong, I wouldn't even know where to begin; it's like some weird Born-Again Numerology. Undecided

Comparing the number of chromosomes to determine "biological relatedness" is about as equally valid as comparing the number of appendages. Yell

Writch
TheGrobe wrote:

Wait -- you mean to say that apes evolved from Adam?


 No, he means Apes evolved from A dam monkey (in his zealotry, he missed a space).

soothsayer8

I'm pretty sure astrology has been outright disproven by both statitcians AND psychologists.

bigpoison
TheGrobe wrote:
bigpoison wrote:
padman wrote:

Even if you were a creationist you should realize that your antagonists argue that humans evolved from some type of ape. They would never say that humans evolved from monkeys. If you can point out the scientists who do claim this it would be highly interesting. If you can find anybody in the general population who claims that it would be also highly interesting.


Not really.  All mammals share a common ancestor, as does all life.  It is very common to hear "mystics" convolute the origin of species into, "you're saying humans evolved from monkeys."  By saying, "some type of ape" you're treading a similar path.

They don't need any help.


Wait -- you mean to say that apes evolved from Adam?


Have you ever read Twain's "Letters from Earth"?  I think you'd really like it, thegrobe.  Adam and Eve spend a lot of time making fossils.

ichabod801

Captain! We have detected a Klingon thread lock approaching at warp speed!

Cystem_Phailure
LordJones3rd wrote:

As a scientific test I decided to follow what my horoscope says each day in my chess games to see if it could really improve my rating. 


Your eventual conclusion was correct, but only a graduate of the Kansas public school system could consider your approach "scientific".Cool

--Cystem

Writch

Yell Can we get this back on topic?!?!

Inverted is clearly a good chess player. Looking at his birthdate (Birthday: Dec 19, 1990) makes him a Sagitarius/Capricorn "cusper". Maybe the secret lies therein?

Sagittarius for today: You should indulge your creative persona today -- maybe dress up or show off a little, or maybe just hunker down with a sketchbook and doodle until you come up with the perfect plan

Capricorn for today: You need to delay something that seems rather important, but don't freak out about it -- sometimes you just need to prioritize. Things should look a lot better for that activity in the near future

TheGrobe
Inverted wrote:

O and Ive seen plenty of apes, I know many humans, but where are all the ape-men at ?!?!?!
When you meet your non-existent 'missing-link', let me know......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmaAPaP-h0 

Beast719

Before I became a Welsh chess legend I used to work for the Macynllyth Argus.  When I was a cub reporter there my editor gave me the daily horoscopes as a rite of passage. 

"But I haven't been trained in astrological lore" I protested, "What should I write?"  to which he replied:

"Just make it up, who's going to check it?"

Good point that's why he was in charge. I was only moved to features and gardening when I wrote for Cancer:

"If you're a Welsh teacher called Mr Davies watch out because today you are going to be run over by a Renault Megane"

Even with the dented front bumper surround I was still able to sell it on E-bay though.

bigpoison

Well, padman, I am a bit crazy.  I wouldn't have said boo had you originally stated "ape-like" as opposed to "some type of ape".  Granted, you could also say, "human-like".

Cheers, man, I'm with ya'.

Inverted
LordJones3rd wrote:

When I hover over your rating it shows over 2,000.  Your intellect must be above average so something rather profound must have happened in your formative years that has led you to carry these misconceptions unquestioned into adulthood without the dialectical analysis that your intellect would surely warrant.

Considering Ive provided more analysis to support my opinion than you or the other posters, please explain how you conclude that they are "unquestioned" and "without dialectical analysis" ?

How about you construct a reasoned counter-view right now to refute these "unquestioned misconceptions"... If you can't then perhaps you need to ask yourself why you blindly follow beliefs you can't explain ?

Beast719

http://drdino.com/media-categories.php?c=creation+in+common+sense&v=41

I think this will explain everything.

Cystem_Phailure
Inverted wrote:  Considering Ive provided more analysis to support my opinion . . . 

I nominate you for Most Appropriate Nickname on Chess.com!

--Cystem Cool