Rule 3.9 says, on the other hand that a piece isn’t pinned when it is supporting another piece that checks the opponent’s king in sentence one.
Perhaps chess, like English, is beyond your scope of understanding.
Perhaps chess, like English, is beyond your scope of understanding.
Even if it was a contradiction, which it isn’t, it’s obviously a case of precedent.
No matter what other rules apply, you cannot move into check.
Dunning-Kruger in full force on this thread.
If you’re as brilliant as you think you are, why don’t you put the effort into not playing terrible chess moves (and photography)?
it should be allowed. i mean we are allowed make a stalemate and in footy, own goals count, so we should be allowed selfmate ourselves.
I think the first taken king is the loser.
The only loser in this thread is someone who made 22 posts, all of them filled with nonsense.
It seems a legal castling and lead white to instantaneous lose.
I'm about to call you over there in OC & fill your cell speaker....grrr !
1.0-0-0 in that position is an instant draw. Try figuring out why.
Well, u just stole my Plan B....so -1 for you.
And btw, I too believe that ur too old to make a GM just like I'm almost too old to make........nvm.
Simply 1.0-0-0 is an illegal move, so white would normally lose in a blitz game. But as Black only has his king, it is a draw.
Not true. They say that 3.9 does not apply to speed games 'cuz players don't have time to hit the rewind button. Black's king CAN take white's king and legally declare that they won. IOW's, Black is not playing for 1/2 point here as you never are in blitz.....did u know that ?....u of all ppl !
It's funnier when someone castles into a 1 move mate !!
...which is exactly what this is.
I think the first taken king is the loser.
....I feel peaceful. Thx Mark .
Anyway, let's do a revisit after dawn. GN....zzzz.
Okay, I slept kinda good & kinda not. Anyway....
Speaking of that, why can a pawn take a pawn en passant but a bishop can’t take a pawn en passant?
I know this is kinda dumb, but extending this to a rook (or horse) ?....
1. e2-e4 Rxp e.p. (...and Rook now roosts on e3 - pawn gone )
As Scottrf posted, moving into check is an illegal move. Doesn't matter what sort of move results in being in check. Not sure why this is even a question.
There are no true ILLEGAL moves in chess !
It's like being a bank robberer (?). Crime pays ! (....if u don't get cot).
Do u know what happens if A makes an "illegal" move & then B makes their move....while the arbiter/TD is arguing-trying to use an expired coupon @ the latte stand ?
Nothing !....the game goes on. And it happens all the time - esp in blitz !
Stuff like this cannot go controlled unless ur playing someone on a bandstand riser.
Sentence 1 basically states that a piece IS NOT PINNED when it comes to placing a check on an opponent’s king. What this means is that you can use that pinned piece to prevent the opponent’s king from taking another one of your pieces. That pinned piece protects the checking piece, or any other piece for that matter the opposing king might try to take.
Sentence 2 basically says the piece IS PINNED NO MATTER WHAT!!! Come he’ll or high water, a pinned piece is pinned, period. That’s what sentence 2 says.
The rule is very poorly written. It did not need to be written in two sentences. One sentence would’ve sufficed. It could’ve basically said:
“A piece is pinned when moving that piece would put your king in check, however the pin is released when it supports another piece that puts the opponent’s king in check”
Seriously lame. I might offer my services to FIDE. They need some editing help.
You are trying to read things into that rule which are not there.
Pinned (against it's own King) means a piece cannot move off a diagonal/rank/file and expose the king to check. It does not mean it mysteriously loses it's powers to control squares.
A bishop on b1 can control every square on the b1-h7 diagonal (assuming no other piece in the way). If the opponent's King is on that diagonal it is in check. if another piece is on that diagonal giving check to the opponent's King, the King cannot capture it. The Bishop has no need to move to perform either function.
If we now place the opponents rook on the a1 square, so the Bishop is pinned against his own King on say c1, the Bishops powers of control/check are still valid. All that has changed is he is no longer capable of moving.