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StupidDrip95, How do people yell at you after you've disabled chat? 

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The suggestion to play a computer instead of a human ignores the fact that computers don't play like humans.

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Vance917 wrote:
Loomis wrote:

padman, have you ever stopped to think of what the person on the other end is thinking or feeling? That perhaps they are really annoyed by impersonal "good luck" or the trite "thanks". Or do you just assume that your way is the right way?


I am curious to know why this would bother you.  Especially considering that at any time you are free to play against the computer and avoid the annoyances of dealing with humans as humans.


Nobody has given a good reason we should all be saying "good luck" to each other. Why do I have to explain why it would be annoying? is it too difficult to just realize that different people have different feelings on the same thing. Once someone has that realization, then they can start working on respecting those differences. Then we're getting somewhere.

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So many topics in one thread.

To the OP's issues.  I never take a cheating accusation as a compliment or as an insult.  I usually just assume the person on the other end is a paranoid unsophisticated moron. 

I am not an unfriendly person, as you may know, but I do find that chatting definitely distracts me from the game.  Yes, even in CC.  And yes, even if it's slogging through "how are you, do you like pizza, etc"  Rarely is someone clever or amusing enough to warrant conversation. I have one game where the guy is going on and on about random things and I don't even know from where he's pulling topics.  Maybe this is to distract? I have no idea.

Loomis, I used to think a bit like you but I guess I've evolved to understand that we are not automatons and I that I needed to let go of the Aspberger's.  We're humans and making the miniscule effort of "hello back" or whatever you deem appropriate...actually makes the world a more pleasant and warmer place.  If you are saying you don't find any use in it, then consider yourself a minority and give some consideration to how most feel...if you can do that.  It's not a me only world, but perhaps you think civic duties are overrated too.

I never say good luck...I used to find it weird in a chess game to see it but now I just respond with "thanks".  The person expressed something akin to a handshake and I've said something that doesn't betray me or lie to the opponent and still makes a human connect.  Some people might even think it rude for all I know...that I accept their good luck without offering any in return. Who knows.

Being kind when it costs you almost nothing is always time well-spent, in my opinion. Smile

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I don't usually say "good luck" unless my opponent says it first. I really don't understand what that means or why it is needed. Surely you don't mean that you want me to win the game, so what kind of luck is being wished ? In my opinion, hello or hi is completely okay.

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AfafBouardi wrote:

So many topics in one thread.

To the OP's issues.  I never take a cheating accusation as a compliment or as an insult.  I usually just assume the person on the other end is a paranoid unsophisticated moron. 

I am not an unfriendly person, as you may know, but I do find that chatting definitely distracts me from the game.  Yes, even in CC.  And yes, even if it's slogging through "how are you, do you like pizza, etc"  Rarely is someone clever or amusing enough to warrant conversation. I have one game where the guy is going on and on about random things and I don't even know from where he's pulling topics.  Maybe this is to distract? I have no idea.

Loomis, I used to think a bit like you but I guess I've evolved to understand that we are not automatons and I that I needed to let go of the Aspberger's.  We're humans and making the miniscule effort of "hello back" or whatever you deem appropriate...actually makes the world a more pleasant and warmer place.  If you are saying you don't find any use in it, then consider yourself a minority and give some consideration to how most feel...if you can do that.  It's not a me only world, but perhaps you think civic duties are overrated too.

I never say good luck...I used to find it weird in a chess game to see it but now I just respond with "thanks".  The person expressed something akin to a handshake and I've said something that doesn't betray me or lie to the opponent and still makes a human connect.  Some people might even think it rude for all I know...that I accept their good luck without offering any in return. Who knows.

Being kind when it costs you almost nothing is always time well-spent, in my opinion.


You said what I wanted to say, only more articulately than I could have said it!  So I tip my hat to you, and I am glad that you did not leave this place, as you suggested that you might!  But if I may nit-pick, then I will disagree with just one point that you made.  The basis for being courteous is not, as I see it, because this is what the majority wants.  If that were the basis, then it would be fickle, and as soon as the majority swings to the other side, we would then lose all reason to be courteous.  No, in my view, the reason to be courteous is because it is simply the right thing to do, and it will continue to be the right thing to do no matter how many agree or disagree.  We don't vote on whether 2+2=4.  We as a society love our shades of gray, our "I'm OK, you're OK", out "It's all good" rhetoric, but in some cases, there really is a right and a wrong.

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It appears to me that the game messaging system here is GEICO, too caveman. Disable chat? Why not just have a delete comment function? Disable chat seems so theromonuclear war like and not a fine example of coding. My usual tack is to view the other players profile for a clue to an intro. GG & GL is for wimps especially when you really want to to stove his/her head in with your queen ;-) What I don't like, hate, loathe is to say a few lines and have them/the other player not respond and have that missive linger there the whole of the game like a onus from your mother to clean your room. The angst is claustrophobic! Disable chat is immature in my opinion and the squad here, Erik and company should update this.

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Loomis wrote:

What is it with people who feel the need to say "good luck" before every single game. What does that even mean?


 Occasionally when I play a game, my opponent is unfortunate in that he/she has a crisis of some kind which forces him/her to give up on the game and lose on time. This is an unsatisfying way to win and I genuinely mean it when I wish someone good luck at the beginning of the game.

In October, I was inflicted with the h1n1 virus and was rushed to the hospital where I went into a coma for several months. Needless to say, I lost many games here because of that and I doubt my opponents felt any sort of satisfaction from their victories.

Anyhoo--I always wish my opponent good luck and say hello. If they don't like it, I don't view it as any sort of character flaw on my part.

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When I win a queen, I always say haha.Laughing

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I find it really annoying when people disable chat when they accept a challenge.  I think it's rude and anti-social.  If some can't be bothered to say "good luck" or "hello" before a game I'd rather not play them.  I know that this is the internet and people revel in their anonymity but I personally won't accept the absence basic human interaction.  If I want that I'll just play my computer.

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It is kinda funky when you post a greeting and there is no response. After a few moves I just change the box to "moves". What's really bizarre is playing a "friendly" (unrated) and they "hang up".

Maybe we're all just too chatty?

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Loomis wrote:
Arstan wrote:

Thanks for playing or thanks for the game is a great sentiment. 

I guess we must be complete opposites. But an opponent could have done anything other than play a game of chess and so I always think it's nice when an opponent says "good game" or "thanks."


I'm not playing the game as a service to you, as your "thanks" implies.


You don't come across as the type who would do anything as a service to anyone.  That's quite a hang-up you've got about simple greetings.  I'll bet there aren't many people who meet you in person for the first time and say "it's nice to meet you" who don't later regret the remark.

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I disable; bt not with frnds

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Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Loomis wrote:
Arstan wrote:

Thanks for playing or thanks for the game is a great sentiment. 

I guess we must be complete opposites. But an opponent could have done anything other than play a game of chess and so I always think it's nice when an opponent says "good game" or "thanks."


I'm not playing the game as a service to you, as your "thanks" implies.


You don't come across as the type who would do anything as a service to anyone.  That's quite a hang-up you've got about simple greetings.  I'll bet there aren't many people who meet you in person for the first time and say "it's nice to meet you" who don't later regret the remark.


Wow, what set set you off on this guy?

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When I play pool matches I say play well and may all the rolls go my way. 

 

I think the reason I generally don't say anything in online chess is because I started on yahoo a long time ago and the "chat" was the part I didn't like.

 

You know the part where thy call u dumb etc etc...

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polydiatonic wrote:  Wow, what set set you off on this guy?

I just meant that someone who says "nice to meet you" and holds out their hand to shake might end up receiving a lecture on how what they had just uttered was only a meaningless social gesture, and would end up being sorry they said anything at all.  Just like when people type in an innocent "Greetings and good luck" and are either rebuffed or ignored, and then are sorry they didn't just leave the message box blank.

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Well-known, I am not sure. I don't know anyone here who says 'good luck' before a chess game as if it were a formula race. I'd much rather hear something that makes sense like: "Have a good game" or "have fun." Politeness doesn't necessarily have to be something completely meaningless.

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I'm still the new guy here, so I've got few enough games I can quickly go back through them.  It looks like I've played against 18 different opponents on turn-based thus far (most of them in 2 games each, since I've been focusing on tournaments).  So here's a tiny non-scientific survey.

I start out every single first game against a new opponent with "Hello!  Greetings from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan."  And at the end of that I usually tack on something like "Good luck in the tournament" or "Good chess to you!" or something that I hope will come across as friendly.  Usually I make the first comment in the message box for the game, but in a couple instances there was already a greeting awaiting me when I first accessed the game.

Of the 18 players I've faced, 6 made no response at all.  The other 12 responded in one way or another, including:

  • Greetings from Brussels
  • Hello from Northeast Indiana.....
  • HELLO!!
  • Hi, Nampa, Idaho - 20 miles southwest of Boise
  • greetings to u also-- have a good game
  • hi from romania, good luck!
  • Greetings from Denver, CO. Good luck.
  • hello

I agree with Afaf that even in turn-based I would find it a little inconvenient to swap messages during the entire game, unless maybe it was a particular player I knew or hit it off with right away.  However, in 3 or 4 games my opponent and I exchanged a few sentences during during the first 3 or 4 or 5 moves and then settled down and played the rest of the game without any more messages until the end.  I like that, swapping a couple sentences at the beginning, even if it's just to mention that their town looks cool from above in Google Earth.

So if I continue receiving nice replies from 2/3 of my opponents, it's easily worth continuing to issue my initial greetings for each new opponent.  Even if it is just a "shallow formality" and I run the risk of encountering the occasional bad apple.

--Cystem Cool

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I've only played one person who disables chat.  fjtorresr. And he event sent me a trophy once so that's cool. 

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Do you think some people are really robots, living among us?