You guys are still trying to convince yourself that what I reported is BS? Suit yourself or google "chess GM cheating" and report some yourself.
Not trying very hard, I didn't take much convincing.
ok you can avoid google it and you don't even have to open this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess
After all there's still people who believe earth is flat so why not believing GM don't ever cheat ...
You guys are still trying to convince yourself that what I reported is BS? Suit yourself or google "chess GM cheating" and report some yourself.
Not trying very hard, I didn't take much convincing.
ok you can avoid google it and you don't even have to open this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess
After all there's still people who believe earth is flat so why not believing GM don't ever cheat ...
Yeah. Still don't see any of the type of cheating you describe.
Oh Scott! Give in.
I won't cite GM names, opponent score sheet used with pencil, opponent goes to toilet, GM take score sheet, change moves, change board, opponent comes back, is confuse a bit, play resume, GM wins ... I got more of those. And yes the GM himself told me that story and many more.
By not giving names, you're either making this up, or protecting a real-life cheater. Not good.
Engine use is not allowed on this site, but I'd hazard a guess that above 2400 is almost certainly blunder-checking.
Well there certainly seems to be a lot of it going on. For a site that says it has a no tolerance policy on cheating they're pretty lax with regulating it.
Known offenders should just have their ip banned.
Their business model is volume driven : they can't ban thousands of users, and cheaters re-create their account on the next day anyway, and go on cheating for 100 more games before getting banned again...
Yes.In many tornments playing on place I have seen that the players are fighting for he didnot did this no I didnot play like this and telling I didnot did this eligle move so cheating is more widespread
I won't give his name because I don't want his nationality to be assiociated with cheating. He's a GM who used to play here and give simultanous games. This was about 7 years ago and he confessed in chat room that in his early days he would do anything to win and told us a few juicy stories of his exploits. Believe it, don't, it's not important.
This site as in all chess sites, cheating is wide spread and old hat. The best way to play chess is sitting across the board from your opponent.
Reporting it here falls on empty
I'm really confused about the comments claiming that it's allowed to use engines in corrispondence chess. I thought that "correspondence" or "turn-based" is exactly the same!
Unless he's from a non-western country, I mean.
Here we go that was easy ...
Well, title says it all: I'm wondering if it's statistically proven that there's more cheating in correspondence chess then in live chess. I think this is likely since in correspondence, due to the extremely long time controls, the "temptation" of cheating may be bigger. Any opinions?
i'm of the opinion that a player who wants to improve his/her chess skills would never cheat. but unfortunately there are some players who value their online chess rating more than their chess skills and improvement. after repeatedly seeing so many talk about cheating in correspondence chess i decided to run all my correspondence games through a chess engine. i didn't see any cheating in those games. there might be some cheaters. but i think most of the players here don't cheat.
For some reason, I found your post quite funny... 
I'm really confused about the comments claiming that it's allowed to use engines in corrispondence chess. I thought that "correspondence" or "turn-based" is exactly the same!
There are sites (not this one) that allow the use of engines in correspondence chess. It's usually referred to as centaur chess though.
I'm really confused about the comments claiming that it's allowed to use engines in corrispondence chess. I thought that "correspondence" or "turn-based" is exactly the same!
Engines are not allowed in chess.com.
But there are other places like ICCF or LSS where engines are allowed.
When people talk about correspondence chess, they don´t necessarily talk about chess.com (most likely is about ICCF).
I'm really confused about the comments claiming that it's allowed to use engines in corrispondence chess. I thought that "correspondence" or "turn-based" is exactly the same!
Engines are not allowed in chess.com.
But there are other places like ICCF or LSS where engines are allowed.
When people talk about correspondence chess, they don´t necessarily talk about chess.com (most likely is about ICCF).
Ok it seems my post wasn't very clear, I meant only here on chess.com :)
I'm not talking non sense, it's a true story and it's not uncommon at all. It's not because you don't believe it that it means it doen't happen. I remember also one GM in desperate position could draw if opponent had one pawn on h file removed, opponent goes to toilet (again), GM takes the pawn, opponent comes back and is confused a bit, game is drawn.
H O G W A S H
Yes. I've seen more cheating in Online than in Live.
Cause it is easier.
i am of the opinion that there is more cheating in live than 3 day per move. Loads of live players with 1500 1600 live rating and tactics rating below 1200! same speed every move etc. They dont seem to have the patience for longer term games. OT: ads on live certainly give an advantage to paying members dont they!
I'm really confused about the comments claiming that it's allowed to use engines in corrispondence chess. I thought that "correspondence" or "turn-based" is exactly the same!
Engines are not allowed in chess.com.
But there are other places like ICCF or LSS where engines are allowed.
When people talk about correspondence chess, they don´t necessarily talk about chess.com (most likely is about ICCF).
Ok it seems my post wasn't very clear, I meant only here on chess.com :)
yes, it's the same, on this site it's actually called "Online Chess" and engine use is not allowed
What are the rules about cheating?
You can NEVER use chess programs or engines (Chessmaster, Fritz, etc) to analyze current ongoing games unless specifically permitted (such as a computer tournament, agreed upon unrated game, etc). The only type of computer assistance allowed is games databases for opening lines in Turn-based Correspondence-style Chess and Vote Chess, Chess.com Opening Explorer, chess books, and an analysis board. You cannot use ANY outside assistance on Live Chess games. Fixing games results (through intentional loss or multiple accounts) is also cheating.
Well, title says it all: I'm wondering if it's statistically proven that there's more cheating in correspondence chess then in live chess. I think this is likely since in correspondence, due to the extremely long time controls, the "temptation" of cheating may be bigger. Any opinions?
i'm of the opinion that a player who wants to improve his/her chess skills would never cheat. but unfortunately there are some players who value their online chess rating more than their chess skills and improvement. after repeatedly seeing so many talk about cheating in correspondence chess i decided to run all my correspondence games through a chess engine. i didn't see any cheating in those games. there might be some cheaters. but i think most of the players here don't cheat.
For some reason, I found your post quite funny...