Checkmating with just a king and queen

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BigChessplayer665
kingslayer123492 wrote:

MARattigan super rude. You can force into a corner in any case of queen and king.

Depends how you do it you need to have the right method

Dachesvibe

Yeah but still, almost everyone can do that.

MARattigan
kingslayer123492 wrote:

Yeah but still, almost everyone can do that.

But beginners will just follow the example I posted if you tell them to keep moving the queen a knights move away from the enemy king. Of course almost everyone can mate with king and queen against king, but If they already know how to do it there's no point in telling them how. If they don't, telling them to keep their queen a knight's move away from the enemy king is just inviting them to finish up in stalemate.

MARattigan
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
MARattigan wrote:
kotlcfangirl111 wrote:

Also Abbie I stink at chess but from what I've learned from my teacher you have a better chance if you can corner the king!Hope that helps!

No. You have mates with the lone king anywhere at the edge of the board.

When the king goes to the back rank a1,or a8 file

You need to cut it off with a move like queen a2 or something similar so you follow the king until you can cut it off in a backrank

Didn't quite follow that. Quickest way is normally to sandwich the enemy king and mate him at the nearest edge. Corners are not particularly relevant. E.g.

But AVOID putting your queen a knight's move away from the enemy king at the edge of the board, e.g. 7.Qf6 stalemate.

BigChessplayer665
MARattigan wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
MARattigan wrote:
kotlcfangirl111 wrote:

Also Abbie I stink at chess but from what I've learned from my teacher you have a better chance if you can corner the king!Hope that helps!

No. You have mates with the lone king anywhere at the edge of the board.

When the king goes to the back rank a1,or a8 file

You need to cut it off with a move like queen a2 or something similar so you follow the king until you can cut it off in a backrank

Didn't quite follow that. Quickest way is normally to sandwich the enemy king and mate him at the nearest edge. Corners are not particularly relevant. E.g.

I was trying to name a file or line not a corner lol

"Back rank " or something similar I guess would be good enough

Dachesvibe

"file and line"

Cecilia
MARattigan wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
So basically, keep your queen a night type move away from the king always, and force them into the corner. When they get close to the corner, ensure you don’t move the queen in too much where they don’t have two spaces to go. They need two spaces to go so you won’t draw. Then move your king in. Make sure you leave two spaces and don’t let your king make it a draw. Then you’ll be able to checkmate. Example above! Hope it’s helpful!

And if you can't force them into a corner?

Worst possible advice. Beginners usually finish up stalemating and practically all stalemates have the queen a knight's move away from the opponent's king.

Gotta move your king lol

Cecilia
kingslayer123492 wrote:

MARattigan super rude. You can force into a corner in any case of queen and king.

Yes.

randomchessguy555

Peace-on-earth7 if you can't checkmate with queen you can't with rook

Chessflyfisher
Cecilia wrote:
So basically, keep your queen a night type move away from the king always, and force them into the corner. When they get close to the corner, ensure you don’t move the queen in too much where they don’t have two spaces to go. They need two spaces to go so you won’t draw. Then move your king in. Make sure you leave two spaces and don’t let your king make it a draw. Then you’ll be able to checkmate. Example above! Hope it’s helpful!

Very nice! I use that "Queen a Knight's move away" idea myself when working with kids and beginners.

Cecilia
Chessflyfisher wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
So basically, keep your queen a night type move away from the king always, and force them into the corner. When they get close to the corner, ensure you don’t move the queen in too much where they don’t have two spaces to go. They need two spaces to go so you won’t draw. Then move your king in. Make sure you leave two spaces and don’t let your king make it a draw. Then you’ll be able to checkmate. Example above! Hope it’s helpful!

Very nice! I use that "Queen a Knight's move away" idea myself when working with kids and beginners.

Yeah, that’s how I learned it when I was around 6. It’s what my chess coach used to teach me.

Peace-on-Earth7
blackpanther11121 wrote:

Peace-on-earth7 if you can't checkmate with queen you can't with rook

it was otherwise with me.

Peace-on-Earth7
this is what i mean by rook style (it isn't the same but you surely won't stalemate!!!
Peace-on-Earth7

So, here you simply force the king to go at an edge of the board (a1-a8, a1-h8, h1-h8 or a8-h8). And this way you can't stalemate because you leave a lot of space for king to move even if the king is trapped.

kotlcfangirl111

I'll be using this!XD

RichColorado

All the end games that never change are in this book . . .

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MARattigan
RichColorado wrote:

All the end games that never change are in this book . . .

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