Chess.com banned Hans after beating Magnus. Why?

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  So what if it's not easily findable? Is that proof that someone cheated? How many times Super GMs have found moves that are not "easily findable"? Should we ban them all?

 

  Carlsen and Nakamura would be the first to go banned for "cheating", by finding moves not "easily findable", if that's all it takes.

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No it's not proof, of course. I'm just curious.

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Carlsen will be co-owner of chess.com (when it merges with chess24). Apparently chess.com will use his name for more popularity for chess.com. Nakamura makes a living from streaming and may also have some sort of deal with chess.com or Carlsen. It can be seen how Nakamura and chess.com were not very critical of the fact that Carlsen gave up the match for the world champion. Until now, only Fisher, who obviously had mental problems, did.

It's just a conspiracy. But there is a new rule. If you defeat the co-owner of chess.com, you are automatically banned from chess.com.

I have suspended both my and my son's paid chess.com memberships for the time being.

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could he have a capsule that vibrates in his belly ?...then he poops it out later ?

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belly - hans go ke5 its legit but keep coughing so they don't hear me!

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Giusti825 wrote:
indian_pooop wrote:

Chess.com is and has been biased to the point of being dead wrong when top players complain aka magnus and hikaru. 

This has been known since time imemmorandum

I think we are getting into a bit of a chicken and egg argument here.  

Technically speaking, Magnus has not accused Hans of cheating, so chess.com took action before a top player complained about an opponent cheating.  However, I believe Hans may have been banned before Magnus even made the tweet, which leads me to believe that someone may have tipped Magnus off that Hans' play didn't pass the algorithm sniff test which lead to Magnus' withdrawal from the tournament.

 

Fair play explained by Danny Rensch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knvySXCNfd8

     I like Danny Rensch, but I think about half of what he said on Chess.com's "Fair Play/Proctoring" is baloney. I believe this website earnestly tries to catch cheaters, but their algorithms are not perfect. Danny's analogy with smoking and cancer is especially telling: "As much as smoking can be proven to cause cancer, Chess.com catches cheaters." Well, there are smokers who live to a ripe old age and eventually die of something other than cancer or a smoking related illness. So the smoking/cancer connection is not absolute. And the player moves/chess engine moves connection is not absolute, either. Cheaters can go undetected, and even worse, innocent players can get cited and banned. Danny admits this has happened. He even admits they "catch" a thousand cheaters a week. So for how long have those thousand players been cheating? Days? Weeks? Months?? And how many thousand cheaters aren't they catching?

      Of course, if Chess.com simply scrapped their anti-cheating systems and made playing on the site a free-for-all, there'd be a lot of folks accessing engines and getting astronomical ratings. So that's no good, either.

    In general, I like the website Chess.com, but I switched to Lichess for playing games about five years ago. Rumor has it that they're better at detecting cheaters. That also may be a bunch a' baloney. I probably just traded one flawed system for another.......

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The next generation is coming up, and the old generation is using politics to maintain their position.

Check out the documentary about Donkey Kong. This feels the same.
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He has dementia.

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Seven months??

Hans played in and won his section of the CGC. His last game here was August 29th, just before the start of the St. Louis tournament that is going on now.

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NervesofButter wrote:

Has this been his normal pattern time wise?  Hans already about half of what So has.

 

After move 20 in round #...

1: Hans 45  Levon 65
2: Hans 23  Mamedyarov 72
3: Hans 57  Carlsen 51
4: Hans 40  Firouzja 46
5: Hans 60  Dominguez 42

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By the way this info is on chessbomb... the site you said was destroyed tongue.png

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For me, it´s not OK what chess.com did here. It feels bad and like a strange bow after they love now Carlsen and his play group (after a long time of competition and opposition). It feels like a which hunt. Normally I´m on the side of chess.com and love the site. Not here.

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Optimissed wrote:

He has dementia.

Claims the 70+ player with memory issues that believes he has paranormal powers wink.png.

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NervesofButter wrote:
llama36 wrote:

By the way this info is on chessbomb... the site you said was destroyed

I'm assuming then they revived it.  It wasn't the same after chess.com bought them out. 

Thank you for the info.  So Hans taking his time is not out of the ordinary.

No problem.

Also, I'm not sure how to interpret the clock. Would cheating make him play faster or slower? I don't know happy.png

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Time for a coffee break guy’s ! …..plus free popcorn 🍿! ✌️😎
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So Hans will get another draw here.

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Hans is pretty sus to say the least

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Steven-ODonoghue wrote:

Danny made a statement on twitter 

 

Heh, nice. Hans wanted to play this game in public and gets slapped with this.

His move, I guess.

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All while playing in a top tournament. This 19 year old has a lot going on at the moment.

Also, respect to chess.com for giving info. Now we need Carlsen to do the same. Rumors only exist when information is lacking.

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btw i just checked hans's account and he is unbanned

 

im not sure whats going on