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talesfromthehood

"Put it down to experience and learn how can I play better."

 

 

Playing with premoves isn't playing better.

RonaldJosephCote

talesfromthehood;   11 threads in 9 days.?surprise.png  Chess.com also supports major violations of the T.O.S. by offering the forums to everybody.  "it is your choice that you do not".   BTW, who we're you before THIS account.?

RonaldJosephCote

  "Playing with premoves isn't playing better"        Let's use another analygy.  Can the New England Patriots call 2 plays in 1 huddle..?

talesfromthehood
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

  "Playing with premoves isn't playing better"        Let's use another analygy.  Can the New England Patriots call 2 plays in 1 huddle..?

 

Yes, but they have to play each play sequentially. They can't play the first play and then walk off the field. There is no "automatic" play in football like there is online chess. Same with OTB. Your analogy is faulty.

Shock_Me

It's a user interface decision made by chess.com, they believe it's something that players want and clearly many do. OP is right that it is an unfaithful implementation of OTB chess, as are other design choices. OP is dead wrong that it is cheating or an unlevel playing field as the option is open to all. Were the OP to tone down the hyperbole and lobby constructively for change, chess.com might accept the suggestion that when players create a challenge they have the option to enable or disable pre-moves. It seems to me that would satisfy everybody.

iceman073

You can always block that opponent and move on or play another game against him/her and see if you win your next game!  Have a good spirit!

oregonpatzer
talesfromthehood wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

  "Playing with premoves isn't playing better"        Let's use another analygy.  Can the New England Patriots call 2 plays in 1 huddle..?

 

Yes, but they have to play each play sequentially. They can't play the first play and then walk off the field. There is no "automatic" play in football like there is online chess. Same with OTB. Your analogy is faulty.

The Patriots can have their snowplow driver run a play for them if they're playing at home. 

FBloggs
talesfromthehood wrote:

"you DO have the same feature." IMPOSED ON YOU

 

That is like allowing smoking anywhere in a restaurant, you are telling non-smokers they are free to smoke. Maybe they want a non-smoking area.

This site is a business.  The folks running it get to decide whether or not to make pre-moves available.  Nothing is being imposed on you.  If you don't like the way chess.com is run, you have the option of choosing another site.

GWTR
talesfromthehood wrote:

A premove in the hood is putting police mannequins in cars. No one says that is cheating.

 

That's not a mannequin.  Just a guy really enjoying 

Taurusmale67

I don't understand how members can make such a statement when you see closures for Fair Play daily.  Surely this wouldn't happen if the site supported cheating.

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Taurusmale67 wrote:

I don't understand how members can make such a statement when you see closures for Fair Play daily.  Surely this wouldn't happen if the site supported cheating.

The OP is upset that chess.com isn't designed in accordance with his exact specifications.  He is, after all, a paying customer.  Oh wait.  No, he isn't.

batgirl

If you find something that seems wrong to you and would like to see, or help effect, a change, the best thing to do is to get your opinion officially into the system where it might have a decent chance of being addressed:

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hariseth

I just don't get why people get t have pre move on because when you are in a real life tournament you dont get to use premove and save your time you have to use up your time that is why pre move is trash and shouldnt exist

Shock_Me

Ok, then to stay absolutely faithful to OTB play, you should also have to manually enter each of your moves and if you ever touch a piece, you'll have to move it

IMKeto
talesfromthehood wrote:

"it is your choice that you do not"

 

It seems it wasn't their choice to have premoves available or not. Just because you can offer that feature doesn't mean you should. Is there a game option to play games without premoves? Or is premoves something chess.com imposes on all members?

YOU have a choice not to use pre moves.

AnimeDegenerate
Shock_Me wrote:

Ok, then to stay absolutely faithful to OTB play, you should also have to manually enter each of your moves and if you ever touch a piece, you'll have to move it

lol if you play blitz you'll take too long typing the move

RonaldJosephCote

Since the Patriots ARE heading to Superbowl 2018, I see nothing wrong with my football analylogy. tongue.png 

Taurusmale67
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

Since the Patriots ARE heading to Superbowl 2018, I see nothing wrong with my football analylogy.  

Come on you Minnesota Vikings grin.png

EscherehcsE

I haven't watched a football game all season. I didn't even know who made it to the playoffs. And to tell the truth, I don't really miss it all that much, either.

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EscherehcsE wrote:

I haven't watched a football game all season. I didn't even know who made it to the playoffs. And to tell the truth, I don't really miss it all that much, either.

Me neither.  I used to watch at least one game a week.  I'm not going to support spoiled brats who disrespect the flag or a league that has chosen not to enforce one of its rules because of political correctness.  If you celebrate a TD, you get penalized.  If you sit during the national anthem, the league praises you for exercising your right of free speech.  Give me a break.