Chess.. in olympics!

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Chess is not a sport. I think all sports require two things:

  1. Winners and losers are determined completely objectively
  2. The game must be physical

By physical, I have a rather scientific definition in mind, that the game be subject to the laws of physics. For example, an arrow flies through the air based on laws of gravity and aerodynamics, and the path of a curling stone based on its friction with the ice. This definition means that swimming, basketball, skiing, and even darts, curling, and shooting are all physical games.

Chess on the other hand is played in an abstract world, since its rules don't depend on the physical world or the laws of physics in any way. For example, chess is the same game whether we play it on Earth or on the moon, but not so with any physical sport. In fact, chess can be so completely abstracted, we can even play it over the internet.

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If Chess is not a sport, then it is something more than a sport!

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@r_k_ting

Well said.

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There were thoughts, as well as talks with the Olympic Committee to make Chess a regular Olympic Sport- that was some 30 years ago, at the Campomanes presidency. Talks never went very far, for various reasons- the main one being that chess is not a "spectacular" sport which can attract sponsors.

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So they take wrestling (of all things) out of the Olympics. But want to add chess?

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vikram_singh_k wrote:

Chess is a game, whoever says its a sport is a clown.

So, the Olympic Comittee are clowns, right?

According to their 2002 drafts, it's not to their interest to include "MInd Sports" to the Olympic program- and chess is classified officially as an mind sport.

May I kindly ask if you are

1. Ten year old,

2. Stupid, or

3. Both of the above?

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I have never been a big sports guy. As a boy, when other kids were outside playing football or basketball, I was inside reading fantasy and science fiction. However, I have come to enjoy the Olympics and I watch them (I don't usually follow the Winter Olympics). 

I also love chess. Obviously.

But in my humble opinion, chess is a game. Not a sport. If you want to call it a "mind sport" then fine. I'm not going to try to argue against that. But I do not feel like it belongs in the Olympics. I also do not believe that either the Olympics or chess would benefit from its inclusion. It's just not necessary. 

The Olyimpics has plenty going for it. It does not need chess. And chess has been standing on its own for a long time. It does not need the Olympics.

There. My two cents.  

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r_k_ting wrote:

Chess is not a sport. I think all sports require two things:

Winners and losers are determined completely objectively The game must be physical

By physical, I have a rather scientific definition in mind, that the game be subject to the laws of physics. For example, an arrow flies through the air based on laws of gravity and aerodynamics, and the path of a curling stone based on its friction with the ice. This definition means that swimming, basketball, skiing, and even darts, curling, and shooting are all physical games.

Chess on the other hand is played in an abstract world, since its rules don't depend on the physical world or the laws of physics in any way. For example, chess is the same game whether we play it on Earth or on the moon, but not so with any physical sport. In fact, chess can be so completely abstracted, we can even play it over the internet.

According to you. Golf is not a sport. Poker is not a sport.

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I thought chess by definition is in the family of abstract strategy games.

Avatar of Jion_Wansu

wrestling is back in the olympics again!!!

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chess boxing

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Jion_Wansu wrote:
r_k_ting wrote:

Chess is not a sport. I think all sports require two things:

Winners and losers are determined completely objectively The game must be physical

By physical, I have a rather scientific definition in mind, that the game be subject to the laws of physics. For example, an arrow flies through the air based on laws of gravity and aerodynamics, and the path of a curling stone based on its friction with the ice. This definition means that swimming, basketball, skiing, and even darts, curling, and shooting are all physical games.

Chess on the other hand is played in an abstract world, since its rules don't depend on the physical world or the laws of physics in any way. For example, chess is the same game whether we play it on Earth or on the moon, but not so with any physical sport. In fact, chess can be so completely abstracted, we can even play it over the internet.

According to you. Golf is not a sport. Poker is not a sport.

You should probably re-read what he just said and then reconsider the golf remark. By the definition he just gave, he would consider golf a sport.