Help beating Jade

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Avatar of benjaminluriegv
Hi everyone. My burgeoning interest in chess has reached a crossroads. I’ve probably lost 1000+ times to Jade. I have played her like 10 times more than everyone before her combined. I have never won. I tried reading some theory and stuff and watching some videos but she never does the same stuff I see in the examples and somehow just crushes me 100% of the time. It’s so frustrating that I am literally just going to quit playing or I need some specific help beating her. Past posts about this weren’t helpful. I don’t know what to do but I’m not skipping her and I’m VERY tired of playing her. Any new ideas or ways I can get guidance would be much appreciated.
Avatar of benjaminluriegv
Btw I’m getting worse by playing her so much. I just try any random stuff at this point because I’m just hoping for a lucky outcome and barely able to focus since it’s hopeless.
Avatar of jg777chess

The point is to improve not “trick” the AI and win a game, so stop trying “random stuff” and playing hope chess. Have you analyzed each of those games you lost to “Jade”? What caused those losses? What chess studies have you done specifically to improve?

Also why are you playing bots exclusively and not other players? If rating is a concern, play unrated. Have you joined a chess club online or offline yet? Interacting with other players, sharing games and ideas is very helpful and adds a social aspect to an otherwise non social game.

-Jordan 

Avatar of benjaminluriegv
Thanks Jordan. I’m not trying to trick the AI, but I cannot figure out what to do that might work, and it’s getting tedious. Occasionally winning would give me insight into what works as opposed to feeling like nothing works. That’s all. I don’t know or care about the ratings I’m just playing bots cause it was the first thing I did to learn. I guess I can play people too now.
Avatar of jg777chess

The issue with bots is they play very strangely at low levels. They make reasonable moves then out of nowhere capture a pawn with a bishop for no reason. Playing humans the errors are more natural and you can better figure out what causes them. Additionally, you’ll be exposed to a more variety of positions and ideas, which makes chess all the more interesting!

That said, you never said what studying you’ve done, or if and how you’ve reviewed the lost games to Jade. Can you tell us more about that?

-Jordan

Avatar of llama51

It's hard to give advice without seeing one of your games.

Here's 2 games, one with 1.e4 and one with 1.d4 where I tried to play solid (develop, castle) and  then slowly win.

It says Jade is an aggressive bot, so maybe a solid slow style would help you.

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Avatar of Ney_Ma_Me_Ya

It doesn't look like you're anayzing your games.  Seems like analyzing your games would be time better spent than banging your head against Jade over and over. I looked at one of llamas games against her, and she seems really solid for a 1300 rated bot. Aim lower to start and you'll learn faster. Puzzles are good too, to help you see the board better.

Avatar of AtaChess68
I just played her and she hung pieces. Take those pieces.

(And that is an important exercise at 1200-1400. Take what is given for free.)
Avatar of AtaChess68
My second game same thing. First I got a free pawn, then a free knight.

So take the free pieces, then trade everything you can and end up with a piece up and one or two pawns.
Avatar of Cobra2721

Did u win yet?

Avatar of montyjj

I know that I'm beating a dead horse here but I just looked up Jade because I feel like she's way weaker than any other 1300 bot :-D

It shows how differently people play. I have no problem beating her while other bots of 1300 or 1400 often catch me offguard.

The thing with Jade - I think - is that she's consistent. She plays logically but not extra well, and once or twice she always blunders. Just play tactically, don't leave stray pieces, do not blunder and you'll always win. You don't even need to know anything about openings to be honest. (I play exclusively closed games when playing as white btw.)

Avatar of Jagged-2025

yoooo has anone beat jade?

Avatar of GangTsar

Jade seems to be very strong!!! I have played David and Mateo who are rated higher than Jade, as well as Nelson (one down from Jade), and I beat them often, but Jade seems to win almost every time! she somehow always seems to have the upper hand. Even when you manage to get an advantage and think you are winning she'll force you into a draw. Frustratingly good. So much so that she drove me up the wall and I went on this forum to see if I am the only one struggling to beat her, lol. 
P.S. I am not a strong player, only rated about 700

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hello guys

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if you want to beat a bot you have to think like a bot guys