Chess is an unfair flawed nefarious game that only addicted villains choose to play indefinitely

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CooloutAC wrote:
badenwurtca wrote:
badenwurtca wrote:
hisokaxhunter wrote:

chess for me just a mental lab or mental gym...y u take too seriously

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Voketsin

The original post is copypasta material

GrimNT

it's wrong for all the right reasons

eardse

I'm an addicted villain and it is all true, I really hate chess. I am addicted to chess like a drug and sometimes want to quit. every now and then I come back to play more games. the tilt is an undeniable frustration, and it leads to the some of the angriest moments I have ever been. I have never taken much joy from chess even winning. people tell me all the time I should either play in tournaments or not play at all. chess.com doesn't help the situation at all because it seems to encourage addiction. it definitely encourages unfair play. they are obviously knocking down people's ratings significantly lower than FIDE would be. The complete abomination of these combo of factors and the fact that everything seems rigged. Is why this silly game should be legitimately removed from the world for the sake of progress. No human should be tricked into playing this game with the idea of it having some type of merit of achievement or laughable attribution to intelligence and creativity. The machines have proven that all they needed to do was infinitely slam the pieces into each other and record every single observation to know the entirety of every combination of moves and the puzzle solutions they create. which just leads to chess becoming a preconceived notion after a certain number of moves. That and the fact that every human move has been recorded and statistically interpreted so that we are all sorted algorithmically, and engines can predict human mistakes with huge accuracy, leading them to play in ways that just confuse humans basically. We can follow the engines, that is all. If we don't do as the engines do, we lose. period. that is one of many, many reasons, why chess is a trash game. Just remembering everything the engines do from a young age like 5 years old and being a prodigy is what it takes. nothing else, just natural talent, age, plus the right mentors. If you haven't been playing from 5 years old, might as well just accept that it is going to give you emotional problems and insecurities. Maybe before AI and chess engines ruined the human aspects of the game, the excitement should really all be gone now. As much as intelligence and chess have always been seen as somehow connected. That has been proven more and more just to be fallacious myths. Yes, there would be genuine intelligence involved, but being a grand master of chess is not rocket science. It is also a lot of luck and memory. It does not require a 190 IQ to consistently win and become a GM for example. People put way too much attention and stigmatizing belief into this board game. I think it was always just a part of marketing, make people who can't play chess feel dumb and inferior, make people who are good at chess fee smart and superior. It is a very sellable concept. That and the idea that merely playing chess will make someone smarter, as well as make them at the very least appear smarter. It is the same thing as a dumb person who puts on glasses and pretends to be smart. Only 50 years ago that was all normal people had. Now people really shouldn't care at all about how good they are at chess. even the 300 rated players are capable and willing to cheat on chess.com. None of the ratings are real or should matter. One day you are a 2000, another day you are a 1200. That is just going to come and go in waves. 90% of players will cheat one day, 1% or less will cheat on another day. it comes and goes. Nobody every becomes a GM. I would say unless, but nobody ever does lol. It is less likely to become a GM than winning a lottery. Are the GMS geniuses, or is it all rigged? Sometimes. That is what I assume.

UnbanMyKing

it does feel like a lottery, like many other things in life, like lotteries?

einWWe
ChessFreak2020 wrote:

You have a ridiculous contention. Your arguments are stupid, I don't know how the heck you could compare chess to gambling and alcohol but that is extremely farfetched. Chess is just a fun, competitive, hobby for me when I have nothing better to do, there are very few people out there who are seriously addicted to chess accept maybe you which is no one else's problem.

Counterevidence: https://www.chess.com/forum/search?keyword=chess+addiction

UnbanMyKing

i was on vacation already..

ari-learner

There are definitely psychological challenges involved...it is not just a test of your mental abilities.

UnbanMyKing

i said im sorry.

ChessMasteryOfficial

The pain didn’t come from chess alone—it came from how you related to it. And that same pattern can show up elsewhere too. So wherever you go next—sports, art, relationships—be gentle with yourself. Don’t seek mastery just to prove your worth.

UnbanMyKing

it't not enough that i'm sorry? i have to get to be lonely because i trolled online at some times?

UnbanMyKing

i know i sound like a child, but thats not fair.

UnbanMyKing

leave me alone, for eternity, please. this is suffering

eardse
einWWe wrote:
ChessFreak2020 wrote:

You have a ridiculous contention. Your arguments are stupid, I don't know how the heck you could compare chess to gambling and alcohol but that is extremely farfetched. Chess is just a fun, competitive, hobby for me when I have nothing better to do, there are very few people out there who are seriously addicted to chess accept maybe you which is no one else's problem.

Good for you and your "self control," but with that much egotism self reflection will be difficult. I dont think you have positive goals and chess will never help you, on a fundamental or spiritual way. You are just committing evil on the board and it hurts your soul. Whether you want to believe it or not, it is an addictive behavior like drugs or alchohol. The goal of playing as a hobby should be perfectly fine and healthy. Sure. With moderation as you suggested. Just like watching television or anything else really. The problem is that chess is constantly available as are smart phones. It is designed in the same ways that video games have always been to get people as addicted as possible. You claim to not be addicted. That is a for sure sign that you are probably already an addict just in denial. Chess creates psychological dependence and the escapism for egotism like yours, to prevail. Chess might not be as harmful as drugs or gambling, but the excuse exists that playing chess might posit beneficial and possible intellectual improvement. I personally would suggest that there has never been any unbiased research done and that chess instead causes personality issues. It is a frustrating game, and control is the goal, which also doesn't exist.... there are infinite possible moves and stockfish has detirmined what sacrifices are 100% winning moves. Technically even I would beat anyone who hasn't played easily,, and a majority of people who play at club level and expert, and I have a lot of experience playing chess. But it still feels like sometimes i am just banging my head against the wall and like endless improvements can be made. Games will never go your way without some luck, and extreme skill. Just for the goal of being superior? Or apparently in your case, is it just for fun and nothing else? I dont think you only believe that.. you obviously think chess does something for you. But what? Do you really think you are better off for playing chess? Or is it not just a waste of time. You can only get better at chess... it is not improving anything else in your life, to become better at chess. Lol that isn't stupid to say, it is a fact. People who become better at chess dont just become good at other things. They might be too spread out if they do. If you want to be a grand master at chess, you spend and dedicate most of your life to playing chess. Some people have made themselves into excepetions of the norm and have careers ourside of chess, there were some GMs who have done it, But it is less common. Becoming a grandmaster at chess is very rare. Almost impossible without extreme dedication. It is mostly pointless for the majority of people to even consider, the amount of effort and preparation would be worth more spent in other ways not playing chess. People should realize that lol. Chess is only popular because of all the delusional hopefuls, who will never have a shot, and somehow still keep the game alive even though it is primitive and outdated. You might have fun playing games, but that's about it. Maybe losing doesn't bother you and you are okay with just where you're at. It is just wasting time and not improving though. That sounds like an addiction. Only playing to occasionally win, sounds a lot like gambling. Chess is just not that extreme. But it definitely is not healthy. You could waste a lot of time, money, and energy to improve. It will not benefit anything but your chess abilities. It might just waste your time... then even making yourself extremely good at chess, you may have just been better off with a successful career in almost anything else. Of course this is all just most likely, you could be the anomaly. I doubt it though. Basically humanity should move on from chess. The amount of effort and time consumed from literal geniuses. Wasted. If Magnus has a 180 IQ and is a true genuine genius. Wasted.... spent all that genius playing chess. That genius could have changed the world... but no, lol it is funny and sad. Forcing 5 year old children to play chess and for what? To prove they are better than anyone else in the world? That somehow chess correlates to real world intelligence? Where is the application though? What are they doing with that knowledge? I promise you, life is not an autistic bubble. It isnt a bunch of pawns and things you can move around. That's not life at all, chess is distracting... etc, etc, etc. Grow up and stop crying because I can't respect your childish hobby.

Counterevidence: https://www.chess.com/forum/search?keyword=chess+addiction