Chess is sport?

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Wait I'll ask..........................................Nope. Still 50/50.

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glamdring27 wrote:

This is a forum in a chess site about whether chess is a sport, so obviously there'll be a huge bias. Go ask people in the real world and almost nobody will agree it's a sport.

The most common understanding of the word sport is athletics, which @AtPatriotGames has pointed out ad nauseam. But, that is not the whole of the matter, nor the best place to stand if we wish for an informed and enlightening discussion (increasingly unlikely here as trolling and spamming has taken over).

I’m reminded of two US Supreme Court cases almost exactly a century ago. Both concerned eligibility to citizenship on the basis of a limit Congress placed in 1790 (now no longer law). Citizenship was open to “free white persons”. In the first case, SCOTUS relied on scientific definitions of Caucasian as the meaning of “white” to deny citizenship to a man of Japanese ancestry. In the second case, the man was clearly Caucasian, but his dark skin led the Court to adopt the eyeball test, or “man on the street”. He clearly does not look white to the average person.

It is the latter test that you advocate here.

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Well, it's certainly not me who is bringing racism into a chess discussion, but fine, whatever you want.

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glamdring27 wrote:

Well, it's certainly not me who is bringing racism into a chess discussion, but fine, whatever you want.

It’s the structure of the argument I was describing. The “racism” built into US law creates the preconceived conclusion. The arguments are the manner of reaching this conclusion against inconvenient evidence.

When things don’t ho well for you, use reductionist logic. That’s the point.

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I'm fairly sure the Olympic committee did not go to "the real world" to determine shooting a gun was a sport. They might have, on the other hand, decided it was considered a sport by people who shoot guns and that it would be popular to add to the olympic competitions.

Maybe if someone were to convince the Olympic officials to include chess, we might not have yet another dozen threads like this.

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how free you peoples are

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I agree
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mhaysam wrote:

how free you peoples are

This is an international chess site. What "peoples" are you referring to? Earthlings?

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like you

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It's funny, a similar topic came up on lichess recently.

I’ll say it again: Chess boxing is a sport, not chess.

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mhaysam wrote:

how free you peoples are

pretty free, but not very free

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Pokshtya wrote:

It's funny, a similar topic came up on lichess recently.

I’ll say it again: Chess boxing is a sport, not chess.

Chess boxing will be taken from a totally different perspective from chess lol.

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accha asa he

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kevinu bro can you tell me more about this group

pleas

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what this group made for

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mhaysam wrote:

what this group made for

what is this "group" you are talking abt?

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abt?

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it stands for about

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Now this thread is getting interesting. We have one who asks what the 'group' is about like he can't see the title of the thread. Then we have a cretin who thinks farting is fun. Next we may have more dummies who start their comments with 'bruh'.

See this is what off topic is supposed to be. Stupid on display.

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Definitely