Chess isn't a sport

Stephen Hawking was disabled, so he was unable to participate in most traditional "sports". What is more wonderful than a sport anyone can play! Chess is that sport! also, chess requires hand eye coordination to get your piece to the right square. And the elevated heart rate from chess technically is muscular activity, because blood flow involves skeletal muscles "skeletal muscles help maintain venous return and consequently cardiac output" that's according to the journal Nature. So chess does increase physical activity in small ways. But it is still physical activity and chess is still a sport.

So penguinboy9, we have debunked the three major parts of your argument.

1) We proved that chess meets your definition of "sport": a game/competition/activity that requires physical exertion.

2) We showed that the IOC does have the right to define what is a sport, it is not motivated by money or "bureaucratic inertia", and that dictionaries can be wrong.

3) Finally, we showed that your "if the majority say the word means this, that is what it means", argument is true, but it proves chess is a sport, because most countries recognize chess as a sport.

The IOC is not biased by money in this case. They have implemented many anti-corruption actions to stop corruption. If you think there is corruption in the IOC right now, and have substantial evidence you can call their anti-corruption hotline. Also, you can't say that they are biased by money now just because in the past they were. Even then, the IOC wasn't biased to say that something was a sport.

1) My reasoning was NOT circular, I proved that chess was physical activity because it stimulates the brain in a way that triggers the movement of skeletal muscles, which is physical activity. Then I proved that this physical activity was exercise. I believe that you misunderstand the meaning of circular reasoning. Also, there is no difference between the brain and the body, exercising the brain is the the same as exercising the body. It is a very strange misconception that humans have when we think they are mind is different from our body. The brain is just another organ, one that must be use, be exercised in order to function. Chess is absolutely a sport.

2) You are correct that the IOC is not biased by money, but you still are unwilling to accept that they have the final say in this matter.

3) The countries represent their people, therefore, the majority of countries represent the majority of people (in this case), so chess is a sport by your logic Great Britain is one of the few countries that does not recognize chess as a sport, and that is reflected in the poll that you shared. Reddit is a bad source, so that poll is meaningless.In the future provide links to your evidence so we can make sure it is good.

Also about the IOC, just like courts in the US don't always represent the opinion of the majority, governing bodies interpreting definitions do not have to comply with the beliefs of the majority.

In modern parlance, the word 'sport' seems to be used for any meaningless, unproductive competitive activity. Language is necessarily evolutive and the traditional definition of a word doesn't speak to the spirit of its use.

Chess is a sport because most english speakers refer to it as a sport. The use of the word is more important than its definition.

1) I believe that you did not understand anything that I said. You said the same exact thing as before without putting thought into what I said. You need to provide actual reasoning.

2) ? You did not provide any counterargument or reasoning in any way.

3) You cannot just dismiss an argument. Also, while Reddit may not be a good source for some things, it is a community where millions of people meet together and talk about various things. It can certainly reflect what many people think.

Go to a library and read the full definition in the Oxford English Dictionary.

You are rejecting arguments on the basis of an assertion that is flagrantly false.

In fact, I might suggest that for such arguments, the OED is the only reputable dictionary.

This is not the same thing in any way. There is a massive difference between something like morality, public safety, and various other things compared to something that would not have large implications on society. If a crime like murder were to be legalized, it would be terrible and cause massive amounts of damage to society and the wellbeing of many people in the world. If a board game was not a sport, it would not cause damage that can be compared to what would be caused because of that. There would be little to none.

Look, I don't know why you're creating such a big argument over this. Chess is a sport, and you saying it isn't is not going to change a thing. It's not that deep.

An activity involving physical exertion and skill, esp. (particularly in modern use) one regulated by set rules or customs in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Frequently in plural.

Then provide some reasoning? I can easily do what you just did. Chess is not a sport, and you saying it is isn't going to change a thing. That does not mean anything.

What do you mean? Arguing over such a petty thing is a waste of time. And if more people agree that it's a sport than you, why don't you accept it? The dictionary shouldn't be your go-to for the definition of something. You should listen to what other people have to say. Everyone except you and select few other people KNOW that chess is a sport. Your conspiracy theories are a waste of time as well. If literally EVERYONE that knows what chess is agrees that it's a sport, then you shouldn't argue because they have more experience than you.

I have cited surveys where most people thought that it was not a sport. Also, most people would use the same definition of sport that I do. Also, this is mostly just ad hominem.

How many people have answered your survey, exactly? I doubt that the experienced chess players did, because they wouldn't waste their time over arguing whether chess is or isn't a sport, because they know it is. Where'd you get the dictionary? GOOGLE. Then go to your precious google and ask it if chess is a sport and then check "most" of the entries, as you say. And there you have your answer

Go look for yourself instead of repeatedly using ad hominem. Also, the dictionary I used was oxford's.

If you used the physical dictionary then pardon me. And also I have checked. Either you're using off-brand Google, or you're just arguing for the sake of it.

Im saying go look and check the two surveys that I sent.

I am speaking for everyone out there that knows that chess is a sport. I'm talking about the grandmasters, international masters, even the beginners.

Some people "knowing" chess is a sport provides no real value as an argument.