Chess isn't much of an intelligent game
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May 25, 2020
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Well, then you shouldn’t have much trouble becoming the world chess champion. Good luck with that, genius.
WOW!
Wish I knew this ages ago.
I can still become a GM!
Wish I knew this ages ago.
I can still become a GM!
Yeah, good luck keeping track of all of the moves and their intentions after about move 3. As for baiting it may work for some people but a lot can see past your cheap tricks. Chess takes a lot of intelligence as can be seen with the top players and even just players in general when coming up with new ideas and cool combinations that seem to come out of nowhere! It’s hard to play a good game of chess because in the words of (I believe) David Bronstein “It only takes one bad move to nullify 40 good moves.” There’s a lot more to chess than just knowing how to move pieces and knowing where your opponent can go. Just my 2 cents.
You want me to explain why we have openings?
lol I meant not to the extent that OP suggested. And I never said that there wasn’t any memorization in chess because there is. And I will admit that people who memorize will do good. However, those who memorize don’t always understand. For example, what’s the point of memorizing 30 moves deep into a line if your opponent deviates on move 15? Ideas will fly and sometimes you win and other times you lose! Then you analyze to get better. But even if you did that after every game, you’ll never have enough time or mental capacity to memorize and understand every single opening and variation.
What original claim am I taking back?
Lol, see you didn’t even need to calculate the variations of this conversation to know to stop. And for the record you kinda put it in yourself when you supported a post that demeans a game as good as chess. Wasn’t exactly destined for sunshine and rainbows.
Bruv I literally gave a one paragraph response and your best defense was to back off by saying you’re disinterested and that I “bullied you” lol. Besides OP wasn’t even talking about memorization he was talking about knowing where pieces were and just “making good moves” which is easier said than done. You were then the one who brought memorization into it by claiming I said it in my paragraph which you admitted you didn’t even read. When I tried to clarify you backed off and tried to flip it on me and say that I was the one dodging the argument. I’d say I’ve earned my respect warden =D
I’m not saying we just learn everything as we go along because a lot of chess theory has been established, but I’m saying that there is still innovations to be made, which can be made at home as you’ve said
Lol just from your response I can tell you haven’t been reading so I’ll just stop wasting my time. Anyone who reads this will see the truth and I don’t need your acknowledgement for others to understand. Now stop BULLYING me so that I can go to sleep XD
It’s obvious that you’ve been reading quite hastily and not with a sufficient argument to back it up. Now let’s stop this BuLlYiNg so that I may sleep.
TheThirdMouse wrote:
Bruv I literally gave one paragraph and stopped reading. I Don't want to hear rationalization, and i'm not interested in semantics or letting you incite anything. I said what I wanted to say and now you're going to have to deal with it. Chess involves memorization, and that is a fact. There isn't even an argument that you can make otherwise so just stop the noise.
so if something involves memorization then there cant be any intelligence needed for it? Why don’t you think the reason we have chess openings is the fact that the game requires more than humans intelligence to solve in a given amount of time? If we were able magically to erase all chess openings memory from all human then the most intelligent/ artistic/ and fastest calculating people would win period. I don’t understand the OP claim or why is it a quality claim.
- TheThirdMouse wrote:
b0ogeyman wrote:TheThirdMouse wrote:
Bruv I literally gave one paragraph and stopped reading. I Don't want to hear rationalization, and i'm not interested in semantics or letting you incite anything. I said what I wanted to say and now you're going to have to deal with it. Chess involves memorization, and that is a fact. There isn't even an argument that you can make otherwise so just stop the noise.
so if something involves memorization then there cant be any intelligence needed for it? Why don’t you think the reason we have chess openings is the fact that the game requires more than humans intelligence to solve in a given amount of time? If we were able magically to erase all chess openings memory from all human then the most intelligent/ artistic/ and fastest calculating people would win period. I don’t understand the OP claim or why is it a quality claim.
Uh, you do know that memorization is a type of intelligence and is literally one of the brain's jobs, right? Literally ALL knowledge is retained via crystallization sooo you do the math
Oh Lord! You think we know how human brain works? I already did the math and sounds like you had a basic biology class and think we know exactly what it means to be smart.
TheThirdMouse wrote:
b0ogeyman wrote:
- TheThirdMouse wrote:
b0ogeyman wrote:TheThirdMouse wrote:
Bruv I literally gave one paragraph and stopped reading. I Don't want to hear rationalization, and i'm not interested in semantics or letting you incite anything. I said what I wanted to say and now you're going to have to deal with it. Chess involves memorization, and that is a fact. There isn't even an argument that you can make otherwise so just stop the noise.
so if something involves memorization then there cant be any intelligence needed for it? Why don’t you think the reason we have chess openings is the fact that the game requires more than humans intelligence to solve in a given amount of time? If we were able magically to erase all chess openings memory from all human then the most intelligent/ artistic/ and fastest calculating people would win period. I don’t understand the OP claim or why is it a quality claim.
Uh, you do know that memorization is a type of intelligence and is literally one of the brain's jobs, right? Literally ALL knowledge is retained via crystallization sooo you do the math
Oh Lord! You think we know how human brain works? I already did the math and sounds like you had a basic biology class and think we know exactly what it means to be smart.
Not too far off. I have a PhD in MCBB
Having a PhD in microbiology doesn’t answer my question. I think you were trying to use your “degree” to win an argument instead of addressing the actual argument? This isn’t how this works.
Side note: The most predominant quality I find in educated people or those with graduate degree is their humbleness and understanding to how little we know. I’ve seen and met so many of the know it all PhD holders honestly not as impressive as you would think.
So if you got all your PhD holders alive right now to explain how human brain work or why are we intelligent and conscious they wouldn’t have an answer. They surprisingly also wouldn’t have an answer to how to stop a virus with approx 10,000 gene expressions in one given cell that’s taking over the world.
Just stop. That TheThirdMouse is a troll. I read this c**p - he’s incoherent as h**l and makes no sense. Basically strawmanned you at the start.
Vernzie wrote:
Just stop. That TheThirdMouse is a troll. I read this c**p - he’s incoherent as h**l and makes no sense. Basically strawmanned you at the start.
Yeah you’re right I Should’ve not engaged but I am far from perfect and do give in one my weak urges. Also I thought he/she might have a legit reason to the claim or something that I can understand.
May 25, 2020
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Studying chess has actually been shown to raise your IQ soooooo it's quite the intelligent game
All the pieces have defined moves, as long as you keep your mind where your own and opponent's pieces can move on the board at all times, you'll do fine.
There's stuff like baiting your opponent into moving a piece here and there or to make something else vulnerable. Other than that, chess has a low skill floor and an even lower skill ceiling.