Chess.com novice tries to think like a computer but (surprise) still can't beat Magnus

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Pawnlings

He got absolutely massacred. Missed one move tactics.

lfPatriotGames
AmbroseWinters wrote:

It's kinda funny how he puts "Continuously freestyle rap for 3 minutes" on par with "Defeat world-champion Magnus Carlsen at a game of chess". That's like a DIYer saying "This year, I'm going to build a go-kart, a crossbow, and a spaceship that will go to Mars."

I was thinking almost the same thing. All eleven tasks an average person could probably do within a year or two of training, and some maybe in a month. The 12th one the average person could never do in a lifetime. I wonder what made him choose one task that is so unreasonable compared to the other 11.

AmbroseWinters

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

AmbroseWinters
oregonpatzer wrote:

I already have perfect pitch, and I have finished many NYT crossword puzzles in one sitting, and when I was a kid I could do 40 pullups, and I'm sure that I could blather on for three minutes about any subject assigned to me (retired litigator, I've done it for much longer than that in court and I was paid handsomely for it).  Beating Magnus Carlsen is a whole 'nother thing.  Nope.   

And what's more, the 40 pullups he did, technically speaking, weren't proper pullups--you're supposed to go all the way down and then all the way back up.

Elroch
Pawnlings wrote:

He got absolutely massacred. Missed one move tactics.

Correct. He reached a level of play which might be below average on chess.com.

As was pointed out in the article, the reason is that chess requires a lot of knowledge and experience, by contrast with solving Rubik's cube in 17 seconds which takes no more knowledge than could be written in a chapter. The latter is still an impressive achievement, but he wildly overestimated his chances of success playing Magnus: if he had started as a better player, he might have been less unrealistic. The idea that he could find a set of rules to play chess like a computer likewise revealed a striking level of naivety: I have seen crackpots do the same in the forums here!

GWTR

Good for Max and Magnus.  Pretty cool experiment.

Rocky64

Max didn't resign after dropping a piece, which tells you more about his level of play than the blunder itself. Congrats to Magnus for managing to keep a straight face.

cap78red
AmbroseWinters wrote:

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

in my third ever game I beat a 1800 elo player and in my 5 th I drew with a 1816

cap78red

I beat the player by thinking like a computer and looking at every possibility for 4 moves ie 8 plies

cap78red

I also limited my opponents options by stopping first his knights then his bishops then his rooks

cap78red
twighead wrote:
cap78red wrote:
AmbroseWinters wrote:

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

in my third ever game I beat a 1800 elo player and in my 5 th I drew with a 1816

What's your point? lol

er can you read my other posts explain, a 1800 is pretty strong I am currently a 1700 elo in English national ratings and I can often beat computers now.

cap78red

out of my last 10 games against mephisto master dedicated computer chess board rated 2300 fide I got 3 wins 3 draws and 4 loses

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notmtwain
mickynj wrote:

This is what real perfect pitch looks like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVXCQnW_tU

Yes, but that kid's ability is obviously far superior to what most people with perfect pitch could do.

Did you take that test he used on his final day?

Perfect Pitch Test

ToddA10
cap78red wrote:
AmbroseWinters wrote:

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

in my third ever game I beat a 1800 elo player and in my 5 th I drew with a 1816

 

 

third tournament game maybe. 

AmbroseWinters
cap78red wrote:
AmbroseWinters wrote:

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

in my third ever game I beat a 1800 elo player and in my 5 th I drew with a 1816

Good for you, but I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between Magnus and an 1800.

AmbroseWinters
mickynj wrote:

Max Deutsch seems a living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect

lol

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AmbroseWinters wrote:
cap78red wrote:
AmbroseWinters wrote:

I don't think he had much idea of how complicated chess is. It's not something you get pro at in a month, or a year, or even 5 years, much less as an adult. Honestly, I don't know why he thought he could come up with a algorithm to beat Carlsen (does he really think he can literally be an engine?)--in a month, no less. If it were that easy, Carlsen wouldn't be WC.

in my third ever game I beat a 1800 elo player and in my 5 th I drew with a 1816

Good for you, but I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between Magnus and an 1800.

Nah. They're both chess players.

SmyslovFan

There have been some great responses to this including the following thought:

Instead of studying and playing chess for years in order possibly to face a great player, all I needed to be was arrogant and brash enough to claim that I could beat Carlsen with only one month's training. 

 

Did anyone actually play through the game? The Wall Street Journal completely misrepresented the game itself. The protagonist, who does not deserve to be named, was never winning the game as the WSJ suggests and was completely lost by move 14.

And yes, I could have beaten this guy, almost as quickly! I certainly would have found the tactical errors that Carlsen did in the first few moves. Carlsen destroyed this guy.