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We all understand the importance of a rating system in chess. However, as it is now in CC, this system is open to artificial manipulations which is counter to the objective of the rating system-

1. We can manage (prolong) loosing games, hoping our opponent's rating increases...this will reduce the negative impact on our rating.

2. We can choose who we play based on their rating....say  only play weaker players.

3. We can use "silicon", and other friends to assist in our games...and help our ratings.

4. Once we have achieved a "respectable" rating, we can then protect this by profiling our opponents before accepting any matches.

...and I am sure there are many more ways to "manage" your rating.

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ReedRichards wrote:

We all understand the importance of a rating system in chess. However, as it is now in CC, this system is open to artificial manipulations which is counter to the objective of the rating system-

1. We can manage (prolong) loosing games, hoping our opponent's rating increases...this will reduce the negative impact on our rating.

2. We can choose who we play based on their rating....say  only play weaker players.

3. We can use "silicon", and other friends to assist in our games...and help our ratings.

4. Once we have achieved a "respectable" rating, we can then protect this by profiling our opponents before accepting any matches.

...and I am sure there are many more ways to "manage" your rating.


 None of your points really manage your rating. Delaying your games is as likely to result in your opponent's rating going down and  making your rating losses worse. Ratings are taken into account in rating changes, so choosing players will have limited effect on your rating, and is only effective in the short term. Using a computer merely means your rating reflects your computer use, the rating is still an accurate predictor of your computer assisted results. The only way to really manage an achieved rating is not to play. Any other scheme will fail in the long run.

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ichabod801 wrote:

Can we attack Red Hot Pawn next? They had some interesting looking tournament structures.


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this is the worst chess website possible, not only can i make moves against the computer, i lose in a couple moves against an online player, in which im not even close to a check!!!! what the hell, really?!?

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LOOKING AT YOUR GAME ( V manee?) it says you lost on time- a feature of all types of chess surely ?

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In general ratings online are significantly inflated compared to over the board ratings. Do you hang pieces? Hang = putting a piece on a square where it can be taken for zero gain,

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justice_avocado wrote:
1361 is higher than 1200. this isn't golf.

no    1200 is higher.................. right?

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fuzbuz77 wrote:
justice_avocado wrote: 1361 is higher than 1200. this isn't golf.

You mean I've been on the wrong site all this time?...


i get that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wow!

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a queen is 9 points

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THIS ISN'T GOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On Aug 8th 2007 justice_avocado wrote:
1361 is higher than 1200. this isn't golf.

On 28th Mar 2010 chessvictor777 wrote:

THIS ISN'T GOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I see this discussion has made tremendous progress in it's nearly 3 year life lol.

I think the sticky was not a bad idea, but the decision not to lock it after a while... probably not so good Tongue out

And what about stickies for :

"I think resigning/not resigning is rude" 
"what is 'en-pass-en' "
"Who is the all time best?  Only choices: Morphy or Fischer" (yuck) 
"my opponent cheated in live chess, his clock goes to zero then gets more time" 
"are knights better or bishops" 
"stalemate shouldn't be a rule, I had 7 queens and only drew"  
etc etc

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mznor wrote:

In playing my first game on Chess.com, I received a rating of 1200, before I played. Why, and how was that arrived at?


So that you can lose some rating at first. If you were unrated it would be very hard to calculate how much you lose when you lose and how much you win when you win.

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Why not to introduce the ratings as per the FIDE rules.

Play with rated/unrated games. Qualify by winning/draw and get the initial estimate of the ratings after minimum 3 undefeated games etc...

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I understand from programming point of view set the initial values and a simple logic which is applied after every game.

However from a chess player point of view, it is easy to understand the other-way.

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What does a glicko rating of 100 indicate? Could someone compare or contrast with a rating of 50.

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PAWNAROUND wrote:

What does a glicko rating of 100 indicate? Could someone compare or contrast with a rating of 50.


A glicko rating of 100 is pretty darn hard to get, it indicates that you've lost your first 300 games without winning or drawing even one (lol, or something like that).

A glicko rating of 50 is impossible, it doesn't go lower than 100.  For reference an adult that has just learned the rules and a few basics would be rated around 1000 -- an average tournament player around 1450, masters start around 2200, world champ contenders are high 2700s and 2800.

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7 queens and drew...............hmmm, queen and a king would have done the job