Chess vs checkers

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CTJA wrote:

If you think about it, they are very different games.1 simple example is that chess is a 64 square game, while checkers is actually a 32 square game

I don't think so.

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Bilbo21 wrote:
CTJA wrote:

If you think about it, they are very different games.1 simple example is that chess is a 64 square game, while checkers is actually a 32 square game

I don't think so.

 

It is evidently a true statement. How can you disagree (unless you play checkers on an enlarged board, a 10x10 grid in which you still use only 50 squares).

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Well if you remove all the white squares the board would be a 8x4 grid and be more complex to play.  So the white squares are crucial.

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i don't know checkers

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urk escribió:
Is it a good thing to "promote equality?" Really? You sure about that?

Chess is more popular because checkers is dull in comparison. Checkers is a fine game but it doesn't have the magic of chess. The knight is amazing in injecting magic into the game, and few things are more pleasant in life than administering checkmate.

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This thread is glorious! Who knew there was potential for such thoughtful analysis of something so seemingly trivial. I will henceforth play chess and checkers with great consideration for its social implications! For hours at a time!

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The game of Checkers has been solved. Chess on the other hand will likely never be solved because of its complexity, so I will stick with Chess. As for the social implications of either game, get a life! These are just classic games, nothing more!
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One quality chess has over checkers is that the pieces can go backwards. Like a bishop can be on the 8th square, then go to the 1st square then back again along with other pieces. Whereas in checkers everything moves forward. This makes checkers a more simplistic game. Although checkers is still complicated, it's not as complicated as chess.

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You can move back in checkers, after promotion.

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Checkers is like having nothing but pawns to start the game with. I wouldn't be surprised if checkers was created by someone who wanted to simplify chess or stole the idea from pawns. Like chess, the pawns get promoted to kings ( which have the same power of Queens in chess) when they get to the other end of the board.  It's pretty much a simplistic rip-off of chess.

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chess and checkers are different games

you know why?

because they ARE different games

no kidding

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They're games, with distinct rules. Why does there have to be a comparison to various systems of governing? The knights have a role within the structure of the team and plan, as do the other pieces. Imagine someone complaining that it's unfair that a linebacker is stuck being a linebacker because he'll never ascend to the role of quarterback. It's silly. Just play the game and have fun.

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Chess players grossly underestimate the depth of checkers or draughts as some of us call it. It's not an easy or trivial game. A good chess player will not beat a good draughts player at checkers/draughts.

Checkers has its own beauty and aesthetic. Chess is my favourite, but when people speak disparagingly of checkers they don't know what they are talking about.

 

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Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

Chess players grossly underestimate the depth of checkers or draughts as some of us call it. It's not an easy or trivial game. A good chess player will not beat a good draughts player at checkers/draughts.

Checkers has its own beauty and aesthetic. Chess is my favourite, but when people speak disparagingly of checkers they don't know what they are talking about.

 

Well said. The arrogant comparison between checkers and chess is no different than the same done when people discuss (disparagingly) of the differences between association football and gridiron football. Two different games with individual inherent beauties, none being better than the other.

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GO PATRIOTS!!!

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Firstly, there are different kinds of checkers globally with different rules. Russian checkers is not the same as draughts/checkers that we play in the UK/US, the board sizes are different etc. Regarding the UK/US game, I played it a bit as a kid and then became addicted to it briefly in my early 20s. A lot of people were playing it online as it was one of the free games on Windows PCs in the early noughties. Anyway although the rules are simple it is very beautiful as both sides move forward and strategically crush each other. I have not played it properly in about 15 years and have forgotten most of what I learned but I can assure anyone that wants to play it, it is a serious game. It is a bit like an endgame in chess but more hypnotic. The moves in checkers are simpler which means that you see even further ahead than in chess. A great checker grandmaster put it best when he said, draughts is like looking down a deep well while chess is like looking across the ocean. As someone else has said a strong checker player would rightly destroy a chess player at the game as it contains it's own skill set of openings, traps and endgame stuff that have to be learned just like in chess. There are plenty of opening traps and tricks.

Sadly though, checkers has been "solved" but that was by a super computer & all it proved was that the game ends in a draw. Although chess hasn't yet been "solved" computers are to all intents and purposes unbeatable. Chess is a bigger game but in terms of playability and enjoyment in my experience, they are equal.
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what are draughts

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Draughts is what checkers is called in the UK. People use both terms over here but in the US it just checkers.
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How is "draughts" pronounced? Is it DRAWTS or DRAFTS?

I remember reading an article by Edgar Allan Poe about Maelzel's chess player and he explained the difference between checkers and draughts is that in the former, the moves are "bizarre." Leave it to Poe to use that adjective to describe game rules.

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njmonson wrote:

I don't understand why this post was even written. It benefits no one to say that you like checkers more than chess simply because the chess pieces are rather oligarchical. Why do these two games need to represent any sort of social system at all? I can't think of anyone who would ever be offended by the rules of chess. No one says "I won't play chess until every piece can become a king". There are no social injustices in the game of chess. Chess is just a game and should not be criticized as anything more than that. The preference of checkers over chess should be based solely on your enjoyment of the game and not because the oligarchical nature of the pieces offends you. I don't understand why anyone would feel personally victimized by chess pieces. This post sounds like you are trying to rally a protest against chess and get the rules changed so that every piece can become "equal". The pieces aren't people and you shouldn't feel sympathy for a bishop because it can't become a king. If the pieces could all become another piece the game would not be enjoyable. Saying you don't like chess because of its oligarchy is like saying you don't like the game Life because there's only one doctor card in the game and sometimes you can land on a square saying you got into a car accident. Without these imbalances, there are no games. Every game has some sort of inequality. If don't like chess because of the inequality, why do you like checkers? You can't both move at the same time, so therefore whoever moves first has an advantage. Pick your favorite games based on how much you enjoy them.

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