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game_designer
1818-1828271 wrote:
Lmao!! This guy is seriously so paranoid he thinks the cat pawn with a smiley face is being sold somewhere. Amazing.

You don't know the background story man.

Another guy had his account blocked and chess.com removed hundreds of his spam comments that were riddled throughout an entire forum.

The spamming occurred because they are selling chess variant pieces from another website.

The problem has not completely gone away.

OneThousandEightHundred18
Hahahaha... Take your meds :-)
game_designer
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

generickplayer
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

But your game is a derivative of chess.

DiogenesDue

Don't try to confuse him with reality.

game_designer
iamunknown2 wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

But your game is a derivative of chess.

And western (international) chess is a derivative of Persian Chess + Courier Chess

And Persian chess is a derivative of Shatranj

And Shatranj is a derivative of Chaturanga

And Chaturanga was a derivative of...

well no one really knows, it was 1,500+ years ago after all.

4xel
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

game_designer
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

lets look at an example from chess (western chess variant, the one that people play on this site)

Courier Chess, 12th century, popular for 2 centuries, board size 12 Files and 8 Ranks

Courier chess was the first game with a checkered board and the modern bishops, Queen still only moved one step on the diagonal

Much later somebody had a good idea and combined Courier Chess with Persian Chess (even older than Courier Chess)

They reverted back to a 8x8 board but now it was checkered and had the modern bishops, Queen (Fers) however was still in it's ancient form, one step on the diagonal.

Then in the 15th century modern Queen was born, combining Rook + Bishop

I did say in the first post for this thread that things move very very slowly in the chess world

Let me see, that little transition took at least 3 centuries.

Pace...

LOL

happy.png

4xel
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

lets look at an example from chess (western chess variant, the one that people play on this site)

Courier Chess, 12th century, popular for 2 centuries, board size 12 Files and 8 Ranks

Courier chess was the first game with a checkered board and the modern bishops, Queen still only moved one step on the diagonal

Much later somebody had a good idea and combined Courier Chess with Persian Chess (even older than Courier Chess)

They reverted back to a 8x8 board but now it was checkered and had the modern bishops, Queen (Fers) however was still in it's ancient form, one step on the diagonal.

Then in the 15th century modern Queen was born, combining Rook + Bishop

I did say in the first post for this thread that things move very very slowly in the chess world

Let me see, that little transition took at least 3 centuries.

Pace...

LOL

 

 

And who invented courrier chess? Can you give me the name of someone specific?

game_designer
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

lets look at an example from chess (western chess variant, the one that people play on this site)

Courier Chess, 12th century, popular for 2 centuries, board size 12 Files and 8 Ranks

Courier chess was the first game with a checkered board and the modern bishops, Queen still only moved one step on the diagonal

Much later somebody had a good idea and combined Courier Chess with Persian Chess (even older than Courier Chess)

They reverted back to a 8x8 board but now it was checkered and had the modern bishops, Queen (Fers) however was still in it's ancient form, one step on the diagonal.

Then in the 15th century modern Queen was born, combining Rook + Bishop

I did say in the first post for this thread that things move very very slowly in the chess world

Let me see, that little transition took at least 3 centuries.

Pace...

LOL

 

 

And who invented courier chess? Can you give me the name of someone specific?

Sorry, was before the printing press was invented, so no can do.

And yes, I know what you are really saying happy.png

Lucky we got the printing press now...

vickalan
game_designer wrote:

Sorry, do you even understand my rule?

A pawn can not jump 2 squares when it is blocked with my rule.

 

Your original post said:

"I will now disclose a specific rule in my game....
There is no such thing as en passant in my game."
 
You never said anything about pawns not jumping 2 squares. (e.p. doesn't stop the double-jump, it just allows capture after the double-jump).
 
Where can I find the complete rule?
 
(This process of learning about your game is going kind of slow).sad.png
4xel
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

lets look at an example from chess (western chess variant, the one that people play on this site)

Courier Chess, 12th century, popular for 2 centuries, board size 12 Files and 8 Ranks

Courier chess was the first game with a checkered board and the modern bishops, Queen still only moved one step on the diagonal

Much later somebody had a good idea and combined Courier Chess with Persian Chess (even older than Courier Chess)

They reverted back to a 8x8 board but now it was checkered and had the modern bishops, Queen (Fers) however was still in it's ancient form, one step on the diagonal.

Then in the 15th century modern Queen was born, combining Rook + Bishop

I did say in the first post for this thread that things move very very slowly in the chess world

Let me see, that little transition took at least 3 centuries.

Pace...

LOL

 

 

And who invented courier chess? Can you give me the name of someone specific?

Sorry, was before the printing press was invented, so no can do.

And yes, I know what you are really saying

Lucky we got the printing press now...

 

Yeah, what I'm saying is that Courrier chess was probably not invented by people looking for fame or money (or else they don't disclose their game), and even now that printing press and more have been invented, a name on your game is probably the only thing you'll be able to do (like Capablanca variant of gothic chess, or Sharper chess).

 

If you do reveal your game, you may be exposed to thievery, but if you don't, your game might never see the daylight.

 

A saying goes on internet and more generally in programming, that an idea is worth nothing, only the realisation of it does. In my opinion, your best chance is to program a plateform to play your game. Not only it will make it much more attractive, but it will give you sufficient time ahead of possible copycats to retain some sort of ownership of your game. That and a catchy trademark as others mentioned.

 

I don't remember particular names, but there exist several game engines to ease developpement of chess like board games (one that caught my intention was "zilliongames", but since a google search does not give what I'm looking for, I guess I don't remember correctly).

game_designer
vickalan wrote:
game_designer wrote:

Sorry, do you even understand my rule?

A pawn can not jump 2 squares when it is blocked with my rule.

 

Your original post said:

"I will now disclose a specific rule in my game....
There is no such thing as en passant in my game."
 
You never said anything about pawns not jumping 2 squares. (e.p. doesn't stop the double-jump, it just allows capture after the double-jump).
 
Where can I find the complete rule?
 
(This process of learning about your game is going kind of slow).

Go to post # 1 at the start of this topic.

It has a diagram at the end of that post that explains the rule.

game_designer
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
1818-1828271 wrote:
Suddenly your game has nothing to do with chess even though it is chess with 8 rule changes?

Keep going while I make popcorn

I mean that chess (western variant or modern variant) has it's rules and my game has it's rules.

They are not the same game, they are both played with different rules.

 

Except your game will never be played at all if you keep going at that pace...

lets look at an example from chess (western chess variant, the one that people play on this site)

Courier Chess, 12th century, popular for 2 centuries, board size 12 Files and 8 Ranks

Courier chess was the first game with a checkered board and the modern bishops, Queen still only moved one step on the diagonal

Much later somebody had a good idea and combined Courier Chess with Persian Chess (even older than Courier Chess)

They reverted back to a 8x8 board but now it was checkered and had the modern bishops, Queen (Fers) however was still in it's ancient form, one step on the diagonal.

Then in the 15th century modern Queen was born, combining Rook + Bishop

I did say in the first post for this thread that things move very very slowly in the chess world

Let me see, that little transition took at least 3 centuries.

Pace...

LOL

 

 

And who invented courier chess? Can you give me the name of someone specific?

Sorry, was before the printing press was invented, so no can do.

And yes, I know what you are really saying

Lucky we got the printing press now...

 

Yeah, what I'm saying is that Courrier chess was probably not invented by people looking for fame or money (or else they don't disclose their game), and even now that printing press and more have been invented, a name on your game is probably the only thing you'll be able to do (like Capablanca variant of gothic chess, or Sharper chess).

 

If you do reveal your game, you may be exposed to thievery, but if you don't, your game might never see the daylight.

 

A saying goes on internet and more generally in programming, that an idea is worth nothing, only the realisation of it does. In my opinion, your best chance is to program a plateform to play your game. Not only it will make it much more attractive, but it will give you sufficient time ahead of possible copycats to retain some sort of ownership of your game. That and a catchy trademark as others mentioned.

 

I don't remember particular names, but there exist several game engines to ease developpement of chess like board games (one that caught my intention was "zilliongames", but since a google search does not give what I'm looking for, I guess I don't remember correctly).

I agree. I hear you.

It's a Catch 22 situation.

Dammed if I do, dammed if I don't.

The established chess websites are basically a monopoly, or cartel.

So lets say I build an entire new website from scratch, JavaScript, PHP and MySQL

Lets say it takes me a year, and then I launch with a zero customer base.

Say it bombs, everybody has a laugh and says "I told you so"

Say people like it, all the other websites rush to include it...

It's called zillions of games, it's pretty basic man, not something I would ever consider

Even if I used that or Winboard or XBoard or take your pick then its already published and same story if it is any good.

I actually have a version made with C# and Unity3D with full network code and everything.

But that is not the right platform for my game, I just did that to learn C#

Anyway...

4xel
game_designer wrote:
Pyramid

Oop, yeah, I forgot you already said you already programmed it. Yeah, the hard and unfair part is making a website and being lucky

 

ArgoNavis

Saying that chess websites are some sort of monopoly/cartel only proves that you do not know what cartels and monopolies are.

I SEE THE OP HAS BLOCKED ME FOR POSTING THIS, PROVING HE IS JUST A CHILD WITH DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR...

game_designer
4xel wrote:
game_designer wrote:
Pyramid

Oop, yeah, I forgot you already said you already programmed it. Yeah, the hard and unfair part is making a website and being lucky

 

Yes

I do have a version already that I wrote with JavaScript, it enforces all game rules, etc, etc.

Graphics and user interface is still basic but I do play it in my browser.

But no PHP or MySQL yet.

But that is not the direction I want to go in, I did enough so that I understand how websites work.

I am more interested in the serious work, C/C++ and databases

So that is what I am doing now, building the game engine with C/C++

No graphics, pure console, abstracted, interfaced, so it can hook up to any GUI

Sort out the lawyers.

Take it from there.

vickalan
game_designer wrote:
 

Go to post # 1 at the start of this topic.

It has a diagram at the end of that post that explains the rule.

 
The rule and your diagram don't match.
 
You need to modify the rule to match the diagram, or modify the diagram to match the rule.
game_designer
vickalan wrote:
game_designer wrote:
 

Go to post # 1 at the start of this topic.

It has a diagram at the end of that post that explains the rule.

 
The rule and your diagram don't match.
 
You need to modify the rule to match the diagram, or modify the diagram to match the rule.

Read the paragraph below that has been highlighted (last paragraph below) then look at the diagram once again.

I copied the text below from post # 1

 

Here we go...

There is no such thing as en passant in my game.

En passant is a complicated rule in chess for many reasons:

Non standard move (3 squares affected, source, target, ep square)

Affects 3 fold repetition rule

Affects FEN strings for storing chess positions

Affects code a lot, always have to maintain e.p state

My rule simply makes it a standard move, it blocks a pawn double jump if the square in front of the pawn is controlled by an opposing pawn.

 

p.s

I went back to post # 1 and highlighted some parts in bold to make the rule easier to see.

vickalan

OK thanks.happy.png

Now I understand it. You said that you would like to observe a game with this rule implemented. Here is one:

Success! Your rule works.

Can you tell us a new rule soon?

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