Chess vs Poker

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sparkyyy1337
Uživatel Pashak1989 napsal:
fraser22 escribió:

only people who dont know the game of poker say it doesnt take skill to win

 

Of course it takes a lot of skill, but it also takes a lot of luck. 

It is not uncommon that in big tournament professional players are being eliminated earlier than amateurs. 

Yeah but tournament poker is not where the best players are. It is the online cash games.

WillHeatb

you can't bluff in chess

Barry_Helafonte2

drink this

it might help with your problem

Master_Po

Wonder who was the greatest chess and poker player of all time?

ehh, Bobby Fischer probably. 

Master_Po

Nah, just kidding and getting another pro Bobby Fischer  remark in . 

CookedQueen

So there is a bigger bunch of recent postings just removed ...

CookedQueen

wtf?

CookedQueen

very strange, now the other thread comes out, similar title

VKclowncar

I will add a couple of points. 

 

1.  Poker winnings = your chess rating.  I don't mean that if you are highly rated in chess you will be that good at poker or vice versa.   I am saying  that over the long term, your success in chess will show up in your rating. (unfortunately for me) and in the long term, your success in poker will show up as the amount you have won or lost. 

2.  The short term "luck factor" is one of the main reasons that the best poker players can make so much more than the best chess player.  Sit your average poker player down in front of the best poker player in the world for a day of play and he/she could beat him on a given day despite the difference in skill.  Do the same with an average chess player against any of the best chess players in the world and the average player will lose every time.  So the luck factor in the short term is what allows for so much "action"

3.  One of the big differences between poker and chess is that poker games are segmented.  If you make a really bad play on one hand, assuming you are not emotional about having made the mistake, it does not effect your next hand.  In chess, the bad move effects every other move until the game is over.

 

They are both great games.

Barry_Helafonte2

carlson knows poker

sparkyyy1337
Uživatel VKclowncar napsal:

I will add a couple of points. 

 

1.  Poker winnings = your chess rating.  I don't mean that if you are highly rated in chess you will be that good at poker or vice versa.   I am saying  that over the long term, your success in chess will show up in your rating. (unfortunately for me) and in the long term, your success in poker will show up as the amount you have won or lost. 

2.  The short term "luck factor" is one of the main reasons that the best poker players can make so much more than the best chess player.  Sit your average poker player down in front of the best poker player in the world for a day of play and he/she could beat him on a given day despite the difference in skill.  Do the same with an average chess player against any of the best chess players in the world and the average player will lose every time.  So the luck factor in the short term is what allows for so much "action"

3.  One of the big differences between poker and chess is that poker games are segmented.  If you make a really bad play on one hand, assuming you are not emotional about having made the mistake, it does not effect your next hand.  In chess, the bad move effects every other move until the game is over.

 

They are both great games.

Not really. If you play bad players, you can end up making money, yet there are guys like isildur1, who is among the best in the world, and does not seem to be making money at all because he basically only plays the very best. It is very unfortunate there are no real poker championships. (Not gonna count the WSOP as having any meaning)

sparkyyy1337
Uživatel JuergenWerner napsal:

The WSOP main event NLHE determines the world poker champion

WSOP main event is kind of a joke like most tournaments. It is basically 90% luck. This is what a top poker player think about tournament players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAVlcAynrs4

 

WSOP is pretty much a lottery.

sparkyyy1337
Uživatel JuergenWerner napsal:

They have this kind of like FIDE:

 

http://www.globalpokerindex.com/rankings/gpi/

Yeah but it is more of a joke ranking. It only accounts for live tournaments, which is 90% luck. Online cash games are where the best players are at.

GM_chess_player

Of course,Bobby Fisher.tongue.png

Flank_Attacks

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/computer-finally-beat-pro-poker-players-211731997.html

VKclowncar

Ya bonj,  I was talking about cash games.

 

Ironically, tournaments in chess are quite indicative of skill and not the case, necessarily, in poker.

Barry_Helafonte2

you can money with poker than chess

actually you can make more money with any other activity than chess

people who work in law/medicine/ business all make a ton more than chess players do

weak people can make a ton in law/medicine/business but you have to be a strong GM to scrap by a living at chess.

Flank_Attacks

.. A rather, indirect relation, to 'poker' ..

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/03/behind-the-scenes-with-poker-masseuse-dana-perianu-27345.htm

fraser22

poker has luck.. only difference 

fraser22

no, but count me in!