Chess will never be solved, here's why

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MEGACHE3SE

"In reality, haven't you been asking people whether tygxc has any justification and they're been answering that he doesn't? I've been in some difficult discussions with mathematicians on this site and I wouldn't get into arguments if I didn't think someone was wrong. Regarding what is acceptable as a proof, it seems obvious that a logician or mathematician accepts different criteria for proof than a scientist accepts, since mathematicians and logicians deal with an ideal world populated by ideals and scientists deal with the real world and all the inductive judgements which have to be made."

it is not standards of proof differing across fields that is the issue here, its that hes combining such differencees with obvious logical fallacies that you yourself can see.

RussianGod27
TheChessIntellectReturns wrote:

Imagine a chess position of X paradigms.

Now, a chess computer rated 3000 solves that position. All well and good.

Could another computer rated a zillion solve that position better than Rybka?

No, because not even chess computer zillion could solve the Ruy Lopez better than a sad FIDE master could.

the point is, there's chess positions with exact solutions. Either e4, or d4, or c4, etc.

nothing in the world can change that.

So if you are talking about chess as a competitive sport, then chess has already been solved by kasparov, heck, by capablanca.

If you are talking chess as a meaningless sequence of algorithms, where solving chess equates not to logical solutions of positional and tactical prowess, but as 'how many chess positions could ensure from this one?'' type of solutions, then, the solutions are infinite.

So can chess be solved? If it is as a competitive sport where one side must, win, then it has already been solved. Every possible BEST move in chess has been deduced long ago.

If chess is a meaningless set of moves, with no goal in sight, then sure, chess will never be solved.

His comment is the most downvoted in the chess community 💀💀💀

BigChessplayer665

Who cares about iq lol you seem smart but iq doesn't make you right

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9409

With checkmate in 12.

why arent you addressing the other 10^18 possibilities.

tygxc

@9416

"yeah and I gave it." ++ No. You did not.

"a proof doesnt require a lack of counterexample"
++ As long as there is no counterexample it stands.
'No experiment can prove me right, one experiment can prove me wrong' - Einstein

"your math education. provide it." ++ More than any here.
I am guessing you took 9th grade geometry and that was your highest.

tygxc

@9421

"why arent you addressing the other 10^18 possibilities."
++ For obvious reasons. I address one possibility.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9421

"why arent you addressing the other 10^18 possibilities."
++ For obvious reasons. I address one possibility.

what are the reasons, by definition, you need to address all of them. im waiting.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9416

"a proof doesnt require a lack of counterexample"
++ As long as there is no counterexample it stands.

thats not how proofs work LMFAOOOOOO

THIS GUY REALLY THINKS THAT A LACK OF COUNTEREXAMPLE COUNTS AS A PROOF

HEY LOOK I JUST PROVED RIEMANNS HYPOTHESIS, THERE'S NO COUNTER EXAMPLE SO IVE PROVEN IT.

tygxc

@9424

"you need to address all of them"
++ I do not need to address anything.
You need to propose a possible improvement for white or stay silent.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9424

"you need to address all of them"
++ I do not need to address anything.
You need to propose a possible improvement for white or stay silent.

I already did, its in the 10^18 solutions. I suggest each of them one at a time. why arent you addressing them?

tygxc

@9425

"My highest is Multi-variable Caculus, what's yours?" ++ Calculus... much more than that.

"Never seen you use slang before." ++ I can be blunt too.

MEGACHE3SE
QuantumTopologistISBACK wrote:

Andrew Wiles proved Fermat's Last Theorem and received the Abel Prize for it.

Yes he did, but that was not the guy's point. Also, you removed the rest of the sentence.

More than any here.

My highest is Multi-variable Caculus, what's yours?

ROFL, you have no idea.

Never seen you use slang before.

Does not show here.

It does.

its so funny because you can see IMMEDIATELY what my point is while tygxc misses it completely. its like he lives in a 2d world while we live in the 3rd dimension, literal basic stuff to us is beyond his comprehension.

tygxc

@9429

"I suggest each of them one at a time." ++ I reject your stupid suggestion.

"why arent you addressing them?" ++ For obvious reasons.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9425

"My highest is Multi-variable Caculus, what's yours?" ++ Calculus... much more than that.

"Never seen you use slang before." ++ I can be blunt too.

why do you refuse to answer? dont forget, your logic has already been laughed at by the mathematicians i showed your "proofs" to.

tygxc

@9431

"Quantum Mechanics?" ++ Also, and much more.

BigChessplayer665

Laughed is the wrong word

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9424

"you need to address all of them"
++ I do not need to address anything.
You need to propose a possible improvement for white or stay silent.

https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/appeal-to-ignorance.html

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9429

"I suggest each of them one at a time." ++ I reject your stupid suggestion.

"why arent you addressing them?" ++ For obvious reasons.

by definition, if you have proved that g4 is losing, then you have a way of addressing each of the 10^18 possible ways white can defend.

by admitting that you are not addressing all of them, you are admitting you have no proof. thanks for admitting you are wrong, as per usual.

tygxc

@9438

"mathematicians have already said" ++ What mathematicians? Wrong mathematicians?

tygxc

@9441

"proved that g4 is losing"
++ I know 1 g4? loses by force and I have provided evidence: 4 sequences where white loses.
If you disagree, then provide one (1) sequence where white holds a draw.
That is how chess analysis works.