Chess will never be solved, here's why

Thats up for dio to answer

Quite the heated arguement ensuing in this thread

Zowarrrdooo

I do not post on alts. There's no need to when you are confident about what you post.

Optimissed likes to go full-on fabrication when things don't turn out the way he hoped. His seemingly deep-rooted obsession with lingerie is apparently a separate issue.

There are two methods which chess can be solved in:

Method 1.

There are 64 squares, 32 pieces, billions of players over all 1500 years. Not a single human solved chess. Even artificial intelligence can't solve it. Well, if chess.com creates a 50,000 Fide rated computer then we can consider chess as solved. We'll only need a few NASA supercomputers, add all the power and turn it into 1 ULTRA computer and name the computer "infinity". After that, they'll only need 50,000 people to code for 500 years straight and chess will officially be solved.

Method 2:

Change the rules so that one side can win in 10 forced moves.

And my life has commanded my disappearance eternally...

That's right.
When I reminded him he was blocked in Dio's Covid forum for attacking other posters - O went into full denial and projected his own dishonesty.
I have never seen Dio lie or fabricate even once.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/covid-19-discussion
Here's the entry on the Covid forum: there's a list of blocked people and why they were blocked.
"@Optimissed for attacking other posters (https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/covid-19-discussion?page=150#comment-62695593)"
@Optimissed would also be blockable for spreading Covid disinformation.

Which would tend to mean coming from O that Elroch is Right on everything Elroch has claimed and suggested and patiently and accurately communicated.

i had no idea opt was spreading covid disinformation.

Of course Dio doesn't lie. He doesn't need to.
Nor does Elroch. Who you've underestimated.
Here's your accurate Phrase from just now
"- delusional but I think that is a more accurate term for how O acts"
Yes. Of course!!
But the key thing there is that you saw that On Your Own!
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And if you really have had some psychology training - 
then you'll know about distinguishing paranoid schizophrenia from the much rarer and intricate 'delusional disorder paranoid type' which is classical paranoia as in the DSM series but they renamed it ...
and you would know about the further distinction with 'paranoid personality disorder' where 'delusions if present are transient and not well organized'.
O's delusions come and go. They are indeed not well organized. Not intricate.
Except that he keeps returning to the same ones.
There's a cycle.
He imagines himself to have an authority which happens to not ever exist.
Grandiosity in other words. Probably his central recurring delusion.

BC you made progress.
I'm surprised. I didn't expect it.

If you are suggesting that the O personna is fabricated - that's a definite possibility. Often one can't be certain.
I haven't 'assumed'.
Absolutely everything he's represented about himself could be phony -
because his credibility is so low.
In other words a 'manufactured personna'.
But that's only a possibility.
And I think its unlikely because of the tremendous effort and his foolish investment over a ten year period. Without much political ideology.
His obsessions are centered on himself. Doesn't fit with alt account 'operations'.
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I have encountered several fake 'alt' personalities here over the years.
They often make little or no effort to conceal its the same person and same personality but with different account names. Many llama accounts. Itude accounts. Many Virdi accounts and so on.
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Others (a few) make a tremendous effort to create multiple very different 'personnas'. Different nationalities - gender - age group - education level - profession - everything.
If you know about the UP account - then you know what I'm talking about.
I think of 'alt account operations' as a form of trolling.
I call it 'type 1 trolling' because alt accounts have been the biggest problem for the website management over the years for multiple reasons.
But there's also type 7 and type 8 trolling.
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BC has it occurred to you that partisan organizations would send professional trolling people into very busy websites like chess.com?
If you think about it for a minute - you might realize its very unlikely they wouldn't. Unlikely that its not happening at all. Paid trolling people.
That's what I call 'type 7'. Often goes with Type 1 - a much larger group.
Before dismissing - consider all the other wrongful things that go on on the internet. You would know.
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But O doesn't really fit with type 7. Nor with type 1.
He's much more types 2 and 3. Trolling obsessions with credentials and things like chess titles and ratings is type 2. Common on this site.
And the even more common type 3. The most common type.
There's some type 8 in him. 'Operations' trolling.
PM's and maneuvers - attempts to manipulate the staff and opening posters and the like. It often boomerangs on him. Which he entirely deserves.
But some people are very good at that.

BC if you've put in time on Reddit - then maybe you know a great deal about internet personality behaviours and social media issues.
I've never been on Reddit.
I sometimes see google entries on Reddit but I've never been a member there.
Nor twitter nor quora nor stack overflow.

Still BC you're willing to make the effort to discern different types.
You're willing to admit the possibilities of you making errors.
As you know - not everyone is willing to So Admit.

Talking Back to people who troll intensely should be distinguished from 'trolling' and 'Ad hom'.
Many people don't talk back because they regard that as 'Feeding'.
'Never Feed the trolling person'.
But there's an improvement.
'Operate on your own terms - not dogmatic terms. Give the trollling person what he doesn't want.'
The person best at interfering with trolling persons and disinfo people on the website - is Dio.
He's very very good at it. A 'natural'.
Elroch very good at interfering with disinfo too. He's efficient at dealing with trolling persons.

Guys, who's Elroch? I know who Dio is but not Elroch

Yes you do.

The problem with statements like that is you need to be able to back them up. Find one thing I have said that was wrong - you say you have already done so, so it should be really easy.

While trying, bear in mind the relevance to the claim by our resident narcissist that I am always wrong.

Limitations of Computing Power

While modern computers have made significant strides in chess analysis and gameplay through powerful engines like Stockfish and AlphaZero, there are inherent limitations to computational power when it comes to solving chess. Despite the advances in artificial intelligence and machine learning algorithms, the resources required to comprehensively solve chess—accounting for all possible variations and strategies—are currently beyond reach. The exponential growth in complexity as the game progresses further complicates the task of achieving a complete solution.

The Role of Human Error

Another crucial aspect that prevents the complete solution of chess is the presence of human error. In competitive play, even the strongest grandmasters can make mistakes due to factors like time pressure, psychological stress, fatigue, or oversight. These errors introduce uncertainty into the game and create opportunities for unexpected outcomes that may deviate from optimal play as determined by theoretical analysis or computer calculations.

Emergence of New Strategies

Chess is a dynamic game that continues to evolve over time as players develop new strategies, openings, tactics, and approaches to gameplay. The introduction of novel ideas and innovations keeps the game fresh and engaging while posing challenges for traditional methods of analysis or solving. As players experiment with unconventional moves or unconventional setups, the landscape of chess strategy expands further, adding layers of complexity that resist easy categorization or resolution.

Conclusion: Chess as an Ever-Evolving Challenge

In conclusion, the multifaceted nature of chess—with its infinite possibilities, human creativity, strategic depth, computing limitations, human error factors, and evolving strategies—makes it highly improbable that chess will ever be definitively solved. While advancements in technology may continue to push the boundaries of what is achievable in terms of analysis and gameplay optimization, the essence of chess lies in its enduring capacity to challenge players intellectually and creatively without succumbing to complete resolution.

It took me a full half our to write this, so please read it.